Mayor Nancy Vaughan’s emergency declaration on Nov. 20 that Greensboro would start active enforcement of Gov. Roy Cooper’s executive orders didn’t mean much.
The emergency order did get Vaughan an invitation to make a special guest appearance at Cooper’s televised press conference on Nov. 23, but as far as enforcing anything, it didn’t.
Tuesday, Dec. 1 at 5:18 p.m., “Item 12” was added to the agenda for the 5:30 p.m. City Council meeting. Item 12 amended the city ordinances on nuisances, giving the city the authority to enforce Cooper’s executive orders with civil penalties.
The ordinance gives any city employee the authority to cite people for violation of the executive orders, and the fine for exceeding the COVID-19 occupancy limits is $100 for each person over the limit.
Councilmember Justin Outling objected, not to the ordinance itself, which he said he agreed with and which he voted for, but in the way it was proposed.
He said, “Given the fact that it was provided to us 15 minutes before the meeting without any public input, as a matter of process I do think it is lacking.”
Vaughan said, “People are extremely pleased with the conditions put in place.”
Outling said, “The reality is that the public should have had the opportunity to see the specific language in this specific ordinance.”
After the meeting Outling said, “My understanding is the ordinance was required to actually issue the fines under the executive order. It wasn’t in effect all that time because the council hadn’t passed an ordinance to allow her to do it.”
So on Nov. 22, Vaughan issued an emergency declaration stating that the city was going to begin fining those who violated the governor’s executive orders and on Dec. 1 the City Council passed the ordinance that gives the city the authority to actually start issuing those fines.
When Vaughan made the emergency declaration, Outling said that it was heavy on symbolism. It turns out it was even heavier on symbolism than Outling indicated at the time, because Vaughan didn’t yet have the power to send city employees out to enforce her emergency order.
Reportedly, no one in the city has been fined for violating the governor’s executive orders on wearing masks and the reduced occupancy because, despite Vaughan’s emergency order, the city didn’t yet have the legal right to issue such fines.
Now that the city has that authority, it may start sending out city employees to issue fines to those in violation.
WAKE UP EVERYONE!!!! These lockdown measures, and face mask mandates are doing NOTHING but prolonging this fake pandemic. Quit stepping on our liberties, and let us live our lives.
Has anyone noticed that the common flu is gone? Check out the CDC data yourselves. Oh, wait. Could it be that people are still dying from influenza, but their deaths are being credited to Covid?? Many people are dying WITH Covid, but how many people have actually died FROM Covid? I bet those numbers would open a few eyes.
From the very beginning earlier this year, all reporting about Covid was overhyped and meant to scare everyone into giving up our quality of life, our livelihoods, and our basic civil liberties. All information from true experts, on actual data, possible treatments, and the ineffectiveness of mask mandates, has been totally squashed by the media, the social tech giants, and the government, while we’re all being spoon fed a load of hogwash by a bunch of crooked politicians.
I WILL NOT COMPLY!
You talk so big. I know of people with the virus. I’ll be more than happy to set up a meeting with you without your mask. Just let me know when you’re ready to come face to face with death.
‘You talk so big.”
I do talk big, because I know how to think for myself.
“I know of people with the virus.”
Good for you. I know of some sick people too, who have supposedly been diagnosed with covid, and they wear masks religiously. Masking up didn’t help them one bit, and more than likely contributed to them becoming ill by lowering their immune system.
“I’ll be more than happy to set up a meeting with you without your mask.”
I avoided exposing myself to sick people before this scamdemic, and will continue to do so. I’ve always been adamant about people at work staying home if they’re sick, and have called in sick when I have been ill. If you’re sick with anything, seek treatment, and stay home. If you’re vulnerable to whatever’s out there, minimize your exposure. If you’re a sheep, and believe everything the government tells you, and are now afraid of your own shadow, stay home. But DON’T expect me to turn my world upside down for you, because you’re scared.
“Just let me know when you’re ready to come face to face with death.”
This sounds like a threat.
I am responsible for my own well being. You are responsible for yourself. Not the government. Not Nancy Vaughn, not Skip Alston, and definitely not Roy Cooper. It is everyone’s responsibility, and their right, to make their own decisions about their own welfare, and I am not going to hand over my life to the government.
…and next time, at least have the common decency and creative ability to come up with individual replies for other people’s posts. Copying and pasting the same reply multiple times is lame.
Rather than falling for the decoys employed by our government to get us fighting amongst ourselves.
Perhaps we should get focused and concerned with the real problem, and what really happened. The mayor urged city council to pass a law without giving the public ample notice and without allowing the public to consult and instruct their representatives. This is a violation of article 1 sections 12 and 14 of the north carolina constitution as well as the 1st amendment to the us constitution. Mayors are not granted the power to claim, “emergency”, then use the emergency as justification to sway a city council to vote on usurping power from the people without their consent. Greensboroers were denied an open forum public debate on the record. What is even more dangerous, is that the ordinance passed, give the mayor the power to fine people for future gubernatorial edicts that have not been thought of, let alone written. All of the other stuff is noise.. stay focused on liberty, not the virus or the mask, they are decoys which enable government to perpatrate theft of our liberties permanently, while we look the other way.
Get a life. Stop this propaganda. Take a step to help not hurt our community
Stupid is as stupid does. If you don’t want to comply, keep your ### home. If you have lost a loved one or friend to Covid you wouldn’t be saying such asinine words.
Pull you big pants up and act like a man, just wear the mask. PERIOD!!!!!!!!!
Next time use premises that do not defy the rules of logic while forming your baseless confusing conclusion. Ad hominem, non sequitur, red herring appeal to pity I can go on and on…
Egregious and unlawful. Our Mandate drunk Mayor is skirting or breaking so many laws and procedures the lawsuits should start flying soon.
You are very skilled in the force young jedi… I commend your understanding of the law and the importance of our liberty. Would you ne interested in forming an alliance to fight the forces of darkness? Reply back if so
So our Mayor ordered staff to visit hundreds of businesses and threaten to close them down with an ordinance that hadn’t ever been discussed or ever brought up in public? Could DGI point out where a good storefront for a hardware store downtown? It could sell useful things like lumber for boarding up businesses, tar, feathers, and pitchforks.
Nancy Vaughan is a terrible human. She is the worst person i know.
And so it begins.
Cry havoc and let slip the jackbooted thugs of the Peoples Republic of Greensboro’s City Commissars
John, Yesterday at 10:00 am my business in Greensboro was visited by the fire dept, who informed my employee that a complaint had been filed against us. She was handed a list of COVID compliance mandates….ALL of which I have been doing since MAY for in-person business without a single case! BUT –here’s the thing–the specific “violation” we have committed wasn’t named. Fire Dept did not know what it was when asked. They said “call the 373-CITY number to find out.” No thanks….I’m running a small business. I don’t have time to spend an hour on hold with the city. So, I can’t “fix” my “violation.” ALSO—how are they trusting these complaintants (read “snitches”)? What if it is a competitor of mine who just wants my customers? ALSO—I trust my customers to make their own decisions about their health………they trust me to keep my business sanitized. Individual rights MATTER.
You talk so big. I know of people with the virus. I’ll be more than happy to set up a meeting with you without your mask. Just let me know when you’re ready to come face to face with death.
If they don’t know the violation to tell you, they shouldn’t be given the order. Our mayor has become the darling of the left. If she couldn’t put down the violation, she needs to go.
So this is what we have become in Greensboro, N. C. snitching and tattling on neighbors! I recall this being done in Germany on the Jews! This makes me sick!! People without masks can be avoided in a store! Fining people is wrong! Our mayor will fine people and companies over this but She allowed lawlessness in our city with No fines!! This is Not Right! A mattress store on Lawndale burned down but that is ok!! Our Mayor is not fair to Greensboro citizens! .
All businesses need to be open. People have to earn a living and provide for their families! Maybe they don’t want people to work.
I think we are all being lied to! Do you hear of people with the flu? No! Everyone is being thrown into the same death numbers of Covid! The CDC of NC changed the way they calculate numbers but they don’t tell you how or why! What are the ages of those in ICU at Cone? Children rarely get it nor do teenagers! Yet, schools are closed! Young adults rarely get it. Forty-five to 65 may have a bout of feeling really bad, fever, ackey but remain home. It is the elderly that we know mainly die from it. Why should we all stop living normally? Did we do all this in the seasons of bad flu? No, Never! High numbers of positive cases don’t mean much. There have been many false positives that I have heard and know about. What matters is who are so sick that they are in the hospitals or ICU. No one wants anyone to go through a bad illness or die.
I believe this is all about controlling citizens! Is there anything the government has taken from us that we get back? Masks forever? Very likely! It is the most absurd thing to see people riding in a convertible , top down wearing masks! People walking out doors in fresh moving air wearing a mask. People driving their own car with masks on! Fear has taken over. It is very sad! I fear for what’s coming to us under the guise of health! If you don’t believe in all of this stand up, speak out. Let our mayor hear from us! I really have wondered why the ABC store was deemed essential and stayed open. Church had to be outside for a long time. all kinds of regulation on churches. Government offices don’t have to wear masks? Why not? Does Covid not affect them? There are so many double standards in our society.
I pray for our country , city and state! We will be facing much more in the days and years ahead.
We have a Constitution, our faith, freedoms we can not loose, the work we choose to do and families we love and care for. Most of all, we have a God who loves us!
Thank you for this excellent post. Our mayor needs to be more concerned with the skyrocketing murders in Greensboro. We are headed to become another Chicago soon.
Will all city employees be issued ticket books to write out citations when they see someone without a mask? Is mayor Vaughan exempt when walking her dog? Hilarious
Big brother is coming to get you!
Nancy
Who are these people you speak of. I no that I and numerous other folks are not. Plain and simple she and her good buddy Roy Cooper are drunk on power. What both fail to realize is you are hurting the citizens that elected you along with the economy. Frankly, I don’t think neither one really cares their out to make name for themselves. Mr Outling stand up to Nancy’s nonsense. Before any fines are passed out let’s hear from the public. And come up with a constructive plan to go about this. It should not be left up to one person just at because she has the title of mayor or governor. This is America we’re the citizens has rights and should not be trampled on by these 2 drunk on power Greensboro and North Carolina deserve better
Hey, Vaughn and the Greensboro Politburo…give it a rest.
These tactics of making fake complaints for non-compliance and having police start handing out citations, remind me of other times in history where citizens were asked to snitch on their neighbors. The Mayor is certainly overstepping her authority by fining the very businesses that support the city or threatening to shut down. As we’ve seen in the past, most of our political elite do not follow their misguided mandates!
I agree with all the above. We, the tax-paying citizens have no rights any longer. We must all duck-march to the mayor and her minions (or is it the minions and their mayor?). The City can issue tickets to me all they like – no mask, no where, no how. How funny that now all this mandate crappola is coming about – just when the vaccine is coming on-line. Shutting the barn door after the horse has fled and I’m still waiting for any kind of proof the masks are being effective. With more and more people wearing masks, why are the covid numbers reportedly rising so drastically – something doesn’t make sense. Either the numbers are not accurate (gasp!) or wearing masks is causing the virus to spread. Which is it, Mayor?
Let’s all keep an eye on ALL city and state employees. As I understand it, the new ordinances require mask anytime you are outside your home whether you are socially distancing or not. So, when one of the politicians have a press conference and remove their masks (Cooper does this every time), then they are in violation.
Reminds me of the movie “Invasion of the Body Snatchers”, the duplicate human/plant creatures point the finger and and scream loudly to point out and condemn the remaining creatures.
This power grab gives “any employee” this power? I can see it now, during lunch, and city employees visit any retailer just for fun, to see now much power and mischief they can cause.
It is time for non-compliance, which will only work if a lot of people do it.
I meant to say “remaining humans”.
Typo-King
I see someone needing to have a ticket book removed from their rectum in the near future.
This is ridiculous…giving city employee’s the right to issue fines. Ms. Vaughn’s appetite for power is over the top…. She needs psychiatric evaluation. Let the lawsuits fly against her and the city.
Everyone just remember our STUPID mayor in the next election! She personifies incompetence and ignorance. (As do most of the city council)
“Councilmember Justin Outling objected, not to the ordinance itself, which he said he agreed with and which he voted for, but in the way it was proposed.
He said, “Given the fact that it was provided to us 15 minutes before the meeting without any public input, as a matter of process I do think it is lacking.”
Justin needs to grow some Wedding Tackle and stand up for the people he represents or pack his bags and leave town in shame.
No public comment allowed….really?
No Business Owners allowed to tell of the adverse effect on their businesses…employees talk of losing their jobs….question the way any and every City Employee can violate someone…anyone….for any reason…with no recourse per some sort of Due Process?
Anonymous complaints with no specificity upon Citation….no Appeal Process…..time to start breaking noses folks!
An ordinance is just that, not a law. Someone will get in big trouble trying to enforce it using a city employee.
David…..Would you be Det. Robert Finch of the “Criminal Intelligence” Dept. of the GPD?
Well “David”, I assume you do no research and are under the influence of the 6 big news agencies . They also control all local news media in the most important matters. The Rhino is a notable exception.
There was and is no Covid pandemic. The handling of the few people who actually died of “the virus”,
mostly from pneumonia, particularly at the outset, led to casualties. Compared to all people exposed, the death counts, drummed into us daily, are on par with a bad flu season. This is put forth by very reputable doctors. What local news media has reported this? There is one exception I believe.
The important thing is it is treatable. Taking precautions in personal health care, that most people have not in the past, will bring down severity and death rates. ADEQUATE levels of Vitamin D (PARTICULARLY for Black people) and for all during winter, is top of the list. Zinc with an ionophore such as green tea and green tea extract EGCe may act as the malaria drugs do in PUTTING ZINC into your cells. Vitamin C thru out the day to keep levels up. Take a covid “at risk test” and act accordingly.
One more important thing. Nebulized hydrogen peroxide. I have used it over half a dozen times.
I have used both regular 3% and medicinal hydrogen peroxide. All must be diluted. I have taken them in much higher solutions than is recommended now with no harm. This is not a daily regime.
I will supply web links concerning the above and more. One needs to know more for proper application and effiacy.
PCR tests are being used ridiculosly, I would say criminaly.
If you take the test, demand the cycle times in writing for you and your doctor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWqNl4UUlH0&feature=push-sd&attr_tag=GNaNZ1n0L4zo5Ax_%3A6
https://vitamind.mercola.com/
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/10/16/coronavirus-nitric-oxide.aspx
scroll down for nebulizer
https://web.archive.org/web/20201126223119/https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/12/03/efficacy-of-surgical-masks.aspx?ui=2026b7a9c3b64f8a06211faea6cd12e228af89e9ec5c0df996262e9743ccdaad&cid_source=prnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1ReadMore&cid=20201203&mid=DM736686&rid=1025692884
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/12/01/operation-warp-speed-vaccine-monitoring.aspx?ui=2026b7a9c3b64f8a06211faea6cd12e228af89e9ec5c0df996262e9743ccdaad&cid_source=prnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art2HL&cid=20201201_HL2&mid=DM734803&rid=1024145801
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Looks like Justin Outling just pulled a “I voted against it before I voted for it” maneuver. Just lost any of my future votes.
Go straight to hell Nancy Vaughan with Roy donut cooper right beside you. We are never going to pay a dime, any ticket written will be eaten by whom ever writes it !
Mayor Vaughan spotted at Starmount Country Club with her paramour dining and visiting other tables maskless on Sunday. Good thing her threatened fines and forced closures weren’t able to be enforced then. It would be hypocritical and impeachable behavior. Anyone at Starmount wanna release footage?
And you are surprised by this why?
Republics decline into democracies. Democracies degenerate into despotism. Aristotle.