In recent years, there’s been a lot of talk about a need to make sure that dead people don’t vote – and, apparently, the North Carolina Republican Party is attempting to investigate very deeply into that concern in the upcoming election.
The legal counsel for the state’s Republican party has made a public records request to the Guilford County Register of Deeds Office and the deeds offices in all 99 other counties – which requests the death records from Friday, Sept. 9 through 10 days after the Tuesday, Nov. 8 election.
In addition, the Republican Party’s request includes records of any correspondence to or from local and state elections officials regarding those death records.
In recent years, many Republicans have expressed concerns that current election safeguards don’t do enough to prevent people from casting illegal votes in the name of those who are deceased.
The request to Guilford County, from Phillip Thomas, chief counsel for the NC Republican Party, reads: “Pursuant to North Carolina General Statute 132-6, I respectfully request the opportunity to inspect and obtain copies of the following public records: 1. All death certificates which have been, or which are received by your office, between the dates of September 9, 2022, and November 18, 2. All correspondence, including any attachments, which have been, or which are sent by your office to any of the following entities, where such correspondence contains Relevant Death Certificates, or relates to same: a. North Carolina State Board of Elections, b. Any North Carolina County Board of Elections, or c. North Carolina Department of Health and Human Services.”
The GOP’s legal counsel added that this is a “rolling” request and “therefore your responses should be promptly supplemented as additional Requested Records are received and/or generated by your office.”
He also stated he wished to be informed if the cost of fulfilling the request would exceed $25.
Thomas also asks that he be informed if the county expects a significant delay in responding to and fulfilling this request,
The request also includes, “Please contact me with information about when I might expect the copies or the ability to inspect the requested records.”
A follow-up letter from the Republican Party’s legal counsel to the Guilford County Register of Deeds office confirmed that a similar request had been sent to all 100 Registers of Deeds offices across the state.
I fully agree. I have a female friend who found out yesterday she voted with her former married name even though she goes by her former name so she has somehow voted twice. Please bring back voter ID before the democrats destroy the country
“Somehow voted twice?” She knew she had already voted. That’s her perpetrating fraud, plain and simple.
You miss understand she found out someone else voted using her former name in the county where her ex lives.
Yet another problem created by DemonRats.
And yet an honest dive into election fraud reveals there is very little of it. And when it does happen, there is a pretty even split between Ds and Rs. Meaning that given the very small numbers of cases fraud never changes an election’s outcome.
R’s beleive it helps them win and so they support these measures…it’s all winning/partisanship and claims they are worried about fraud is disingenuous claptrap.
The fact that you claim to believe it’s only the “evil” democrats that do this is all we need to know about you. (did you happen to notice the in-our-faces attempts by TLG to steal the 2020 election? That’s the most important attempt at election fraud possibly ever in our history! Classic projection – since R’s are happy to cheat in order to win they beleive their opponents will do the same thing)
Troll or cultist?
Who can tell?
If we had voter ID, this would not be needed.
Agreed! Why don’t you the Republican party pass a law for voter ID? By not doing so leave one to believe you may create voter fraud? If you are worried about the election, pass a law to account that every person presents a NC goverment ID to vote. What are you afraid of? Anything less provides less credibility to the party and supports lies.
Glenn, you should know Alan Marshall is correct. Roy Cooper and the dems in Raleigh are the problem on voter ID.
My wife works the polls and they had the school system transport eligible students to her voting precinct. She has a young girl come up to he asking to vote, and then she asked the young teen to provide the required information in order to vote. The teen could not do that at that time, but it amazes me the democrats in our school system are recruiting more young people to vote without ensuring they have legitimate proof of who they are when they go to vote.
Interesting how a citizen of N Carolina would be so convinced democrats will engage in voter fraud:
“Four people pleaded guilty on Monday to misdemeanors for their roles in absentee ballot fraud in rural North Carolina during the 2016 and 2018 elections. The convictions stemmed from an investigation that in part resulted in a do-over congressional election.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/four-people-plead-guilty-north-carolina-ballot-probe-2016-2018-electio-rcna49534
Joe- I believe the problem is the responsibility of both parties. Both lack integrity and the b* lls to pass a law that would require a ID to vote. Both parties , I feel are responsible. Would it be to much to ask both parties to work together on this? If one party refuses, in my opinion then that party is to blame.
In NC we did. If I’m not mistaken by over 60% on the vote. Roy Cooper vetoed it.
Ouch! I was unaware. Can the bill be reintroduced?
Thought I remembered that from 2016 I believe. The initiative was on the ballot and the voters approved it. As I remember Cherie Beasley was chief Justice of the state Supreme Court at the time and put a stay on implementing the will if the voters.
You are a liar. Fear mongering typical evil Rs. The fraud in NC elections is gerrymandering.
Voter ID in North Carolina passed TWICE. I think the first time was in 2013 or 2015 but Democrats sued claiming that, well, you know….racism. The judge in that case basically laid out a path that Republicans should have followed for voter ID to be free of discrimination….In 2018, using that feedback, a new voter ID model was drafted and voted upon. Current NC Voter ID law is one of the most, if not THE MOST accommodating in the entire country. That one passed with over 55% of voter support. An Obama appointed judge – Judge Briggs, I think – unilaterally and without consultation froze the law from going into effect until after the 2020 elect….she literally froze it to subvert the will of the voters in 2020, which, in my book, is election interference.
Ummm…you must be new to this party…not only did we “pass a law”…the vast majority of the citizens of this State voted to amend the NC Constitution to require it in 2018; only to be ignored by a handful of activist judges who seem to “know better” than the over 2 million people that voted for it…
The legislature passed Voter ID, but Baron of Raleigh vetoed it. Remember the name Mark Robinson in 2 years.
Mark Robinson weighs half a ton. He better put down that fork if he wants to run for anything.
Agreed. The Pubs seem to have difficulty in getting good solid candidates. Not only here, but all over the country. I personally wouldn’t want the job even if I felt qualified.
Ave AB, ave
AB Nelson; you are entirely correct. The citizens of NC voted in our 2018 election to verify ID requirement for voting. I think the vote was positive to something around 55%! To date that approval has not been processed to become law. It was approved by the NC Legislatures and then vetoed by Cooper and has recently been denied by the NC Supreme Court! I think my dates are correct but again the wishes of the citizens of NC has been ignored! Be sure to look at the candidates that are running for the 2 seats that are being elected on Tuesday, Nov 8th! It matters!
Just more waste by Republicans who don’t appreciate current audit protocols for protecting integrity of current voting processes. Do agree voter ID does no harm so why not. But the real issue is election deniers repeating sole loser Trump’s unfounded claims of mass voter fraud.
You still have TRUMP on the brain in every conversation don’t you chris. What a sad life you must have.
You do realize he maintains control of the Republican party and it’s support or backstabbing of candidates, right? He is also expected to run again since losing is his favorite hobby.
Hobby good. chris bad.
Weren’t you adamantly opposed to voter ID a while back? Seems like you and I went back and forth about it where you said that it was suppressing voters because it was so hard to get an ID. I pointed out that you need ID for a variety of things needed in day to day life and that IDs can be obtained for free if the requesting person cannot afford one.
At least you’ve changed your tune. Progress.
No. I have never understood the concern over voter IDs. I was and am still convinced that the right’s main strategy is voter suppression as they lack the majority in most national elections. Examples are; reducing polling locations in democrat majority districts in GA, reducing or eliminating drop boxes, and making it more difficult to vote by mail. The newest strategy is to aggressively challenge voter rolls in democrat districts based on things like address change records (99% are tossed out but have many documented examples of incorrectly blocking people from voting – See news stories in GA and Ohio).
But thanks for trying to pay attention.
Our pet dumba$$.
Well, if you are for voter ID, how can you be for mail in voting? Similarly, how you gonna use a drop box if ID is required? The number of polling stations is largely irrelevant other than longer wait times. Most cities run free bus service on election day and no poll will close if you are in line before closing time. What else you got?
Mail voting works great and is easy to audit and manage. States that have mail in voting (most used by our military members) just have the requirement that your driver’s license number be submitted with the mail in ballot.
Not complicated.
So you think writing my license number on a sheet of paper is secure? What’s to stop someone from getting access to a person’s number (which isn’t that hard) and slapping it down on a mail in ballot?
The point of ID is so the person managing the voting station can look at me, look at my ID, look at the voting roster, and verify I am who I say I am when I vote. Anything other than that is not secure.
Keep dreaming.
Chris,
It’s called absentee voting, NOT mail in balloting. And it’s monitored by an officer appointed as the voting OIC.
Once again you show your ignorance.
Presenting ID to vote makes sense. However not everyone has a state issued ID: perhaps they don’t drive, and obtaining an ID would require time,effort, and expense that particularly low income voters may find prohibitive. Some other easily accessible way should be initiated to provide proof for voters who need it.
They verify with name and address. But the real protection is with the post election audits that are conducted before the election is certified within 10 days of the closing of polls. They have 6 audits they run:
1. Voter History Audit
2. Data Validation
3. Provisional Audit
4. Sample Audit
5. Close Contest Audit
6. Risk Limiting Audit
But apparently republicans believe they can do it better.
What a Joke
I don’t think getting a State issued ID is in any way prohibitive for anyone who wants to vote. The issues you cited make no sense for anyone who is low income as those same people need ID in order to obtain the government services they need as low income citizens, as well as other services including seeing a doctor, buying medications, using most financial services, filing for loans, renting a home/apartment, registering for low income housing … so getting a state issued ID shouldn’t be a difficult and it’s free. That excuse is not viable.
If it’s important enough for the person to vote they can figure out how to get a free ID. If they’re too lazy or dumb to do they don’t need to vote. Yes, I said that.
As far as the state GOP asking for the dead rolls to compare the names of people voting, they need to stop the insanity. I used to be a registered Republican but registered as “undeclared” after the 2016 election because I was tired of the stupidity of both parties. I’m tired of elementary school political behavior, and that’s what this is. Get over it.
ID cards are free for those who cannot afford them. And who in this country does not posses an ID? Want beer, a cigarette, a rental car, a hotel, an apartment lease? Need ID. Want to drive, want to cash a check, want to open a bank account? Need ID. Let’s stop insulting the poor and minorities by telling them they are too incompetent to get a free ID card.
Anyone wanting a state issued ID can get one for free at any DMV office.
I don’t think anyone dead in North Carolina has voted. Seems there was one case in the past where a Republican man voted also for his wife who had just passed away. So everyone vote first day of early voting.
Fear mongering typical evil Rs. The fraud in NC elections is gerrymandering.