The current Guilford County Board of Commissioners – which features a teacher, two former Guilford County Board of Education members, a school volunteer and a chairman who loves the schools so much they should just get a room – has been very good to the school system in recent years, and school officials are hoping that generous nature continues when the commissioners adopt a fiscal 2026-2027 budget in June.
The Guilford County school board has crafted an initial budget request for county commissioners that once again brings up a familiar question: How much more will the county be willing – or able – to give?
The school board will hold a public hearing on the budget proposal on Tuesday, April 14 before adopting an official version that will be sent to Guilford County Manager Victor Isler, who will be crafting his first budget recommendation for the county after taking over from former County Manager Mike Halford.
For the 2026–2027 fiscal year, Guilford County Schools is asking the county for roughly $307 million in local operating funding, which represents about a 9 percent increase over the current fiscal year’s county appropriation.
Put another way, the district is seeking an additional $24.6 million from Guilford County taxpayers in order to help fund next year’s operations.
Former Guilford County Board of Education member Pat Tillman – who’s now a county commissioner – said this week that the conversation ultimately comes down to priorities – and limits. Tillman said that, while there’s no shortage of worthwhile needs in the school system, the reality is that county leaders don’t have unlimited resources to meet every request that comes forward each year.
As he put it, quoting another political leader, “You can have anything you want, but not everythingyou want.”
Tillman said that tension is at the heart of every school budget discussion. He said the district’s requests often reflect real needs, but added that those needs still have to be weighed against the county’s overall financial picture, including other obligations and the impact on taxpayers.
According to Tillman, the challenge for commissioners isn’t deciding whether schools deserve more funding – it’s deciding how much is sustainable without overextending the county’s budget.
The schools initial request is part of a proposed total budget of about $961 million, with funding coming from a mix of county, state and federal sources.
But while the total number is large, the debate – as always – will center mainly on the local portion.
And that’s where the tension always begins: County funding is the one major piece of the school system’s budget that local elected officials actually control. State funding is largely dictated by Raleigh, and federal funding comes with restrictions and can fluctuate from year to year.
That leaves the Guilford County Board of Commissioners holding the lever the school system most needs to pull.
In recent years, Chairman of the Guilford County Board of Commissioners Skip Alston has been asking school system advocates to petition the state for more money, and he even, last year, suggested that the county’s cities and towns help pay for the schools.
That request was met with a loud and immediate thud by mayors and city and town councils across Guilford County.
School officials say the current request is driven not by expansion, but simply by necessity.
According to the district’s presentation, the proposed budget focuses heavily on maintaining existing services, addressing staffing pressures and catching up on deferred needs – particularly in areas such as employee pay, school safety and aging technology.
One of the biggest drivers is personnel: The plan includes roughly $13 million for raises for teachers and “classified” staff – those like janitors, cafeteria workers and bus drivers – in order to keep Guilford County Schools competitive with neighboring districts.
District leaders have made it clear that compensation is both a recruitment and retention issue, especially as surrounding school systems continue to adjust their pay scales.
At the same time, school officials say they have already made a series of cuts and operational adjustments just to stay afloat under current funding levels.
Those changes include combining some elementary school classes across grade levels, scaling back instructional tools, reducing tutoring, and increasing workloads for some staff – particularly in specialized areas like services for exceptional children.
Even with those moves, Superintendent Whitney Oakley has said the district is struggling to keep up with growing demands – especially as the number of students requiring special education services continues to rise beyond the level funded by the state.
In other words, school system leaders argue that the request isn’t about adding new programs – it’s about preventing further erosion.
And that message is likely to be front and center as the request makes its way to county commissioners.
It’s very rare for the schools to get everything they ask for. Typically, the schools come in with a high number, the county manager recommends a very low number, and the county commissioners come in with a middle number that makes them look like the good guys.
One time years ago, the school system came in with such a large ask that former Commissioner Hank Henning said it was kind of a relief for him, because usually the commissioners would have to get together with school board members and hash things out, but that year, he said, the number requested was so ridiculously large the commissioners would just have to decide a fair amount of school funding on their own.
In the previous budget cycle, Guilford County Schools asked for a significantly larger increase than what it ultimately received. The district requested an additional $43.9 million but ended up with about $12.3 million in new county funding.
That gap, according to school officials, forced the district to absorb costs internally and make many of the cuts that are now being cited as justification for this year’s request.
So, while the increase in this year’s ask is smaller than last year’s, it’s still substantial.
Commissioners will be weighing the request against competing demands across the county budget, which totaled roughly $847 million this fiscal year.
Schools already represent one of the largest single categories of county spending. Typically, about 45 percent of the county’s budget goes toward school funding and paying off school bond debt.
That reality tends to shape the conversation each year: The school system argues that it needs more funding to maintain services, while commissioners emphasize that they have to balance that request against taxpayer impact and other county priorities.
And there’s another complication this year – uncertainty.
School officials have acknowledged that both state and federal funding streams could shift, making long-term planning more difficult. That uncertainty makes local funding even more critical from the district’s perspective – but it also makes commissioners more cautious about committing additional dollars.
Despite that, district leaders have emphasized that the current proposal is a baseline request, not a wish list.
Oakley has said publicly that nothing in the request is “nice to have” – it’s what the district believes is necessary just to continue operating at current levels.
Whether county commissioners agree is another matter.
After the public hearing in mid-April, a finalized request will move into the county’s broader budget process, which plays out over the spring and concludes with a final adopted budget in June.

Here’s an idea. Cut things back to the basics of education, eliminate all the silly BS feel good classes, and GET THE EDUCATION STANDARDS BACK TO A REAL LEVEL.! I’ll bet most can’t read a real book or do math at grade level, but can sure participate in protests and crime.
The ignorance in your statement fits you well Alan. Maybe you should have studied harder in school yourself.
I noticed you didn’t attempt to counter my specific points Christian C Rice/Chris/professor/Polly Pocket/Sybil and instead fell back on your usual holier-then-thou weak defense of implying I’m just some ignorant redneck.
Thank you and you’re welcome.
Signing with my real name because unlike you, I’m not afraid to hide my name.
In your classic form you offer no specifics to your accusations so nothing specific to counter except pointing to the hollow nature of your idiocy.
Best wishes.
should i continue hiding my real name ? i am considering changing my legal name to
i hired a tailor to help fit my ignorance better. u r inspiring
You got that right!! They just got almost a billion dollars and now are asking for more! Where is the lottery money they are supposed to be getting? This is ridiculous! I say we go back to basics as well. I met a 22 year old and our education system failed her big time. She can’t spell or do basic math and can barely read. She sounds her words out like an elementary school kid.
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My heart goes out to that young woman. She might not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but any halfway decent education system would have made her into a fully functional, literate citizen. She has been grievously failed by our government schools monopoly.
It needs to be completely destroyed – by the simple expedient of allowing each family a voucher for each year’s education, to be spent anywhere they like. A new industry of private schools would spring up overnight, and the incompetent self-serving “public” schools would collapse almost as quickly.
And today’s kids wouldn’t grow up to be illiterate ignoramuses like your poor friend.
I have met homeschool kids just like that as well. Said really.
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Don’t believe you.
There are two kinds of homeschool kids. Parents that really have concern about the quality of education their kids are getting in public school and are willing to make the effort to do it better themselves. That sounds like you and your wife. Great. Clearly a better option.
The other kind are conspiracy theory folks who have little education themselves but have been convinced the schools are indoctrinating their kids to believe in things they don’t agree with such as vaccines, LGBTQ tolerance, racial equality, etc… So they pull their kids out of school, but lack the resources to send them to private school and lack the ability to quit working. So they try to educate their kids in their ‘spare time’ after work. Once State testing catches up it’s too late and they claim the state is just trying to make their kids go back to school and be indoctrinated. When you see MAGA types and wonder how they are smart enough to feed themselves? THAT is who I am talking about. Not the best and brightest dooming their kids future out of ignorance, hate and belief in conspiracy theories.
Happy to introduce you to some of them. My wife worked with many of these kids before and after their education was neglected to the point that they really had little to no chance to catch back up.
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I have never met a home schooled student who wasn’t way ahead of their equivalent government school peers.
Your social circle doesn’t cover the entire group now does it Austin? But you be you. Believe what you want. Don’t let facts get in your way.
Best wishes.
For comparison (the top 3 school districts in the state):
* Wake County Schools which has 161,000 students got $742.9 million from the county (after a $40.3 million increase last year) = $4,614.29 per student
* Charlotte-Meck Schools which has 141,000 students got $653 million from the county (after a $56 million increase last year) = $4,631.21 per student
Guilford County Schools which has 66,000 students got $467.6 million from the county (after a $36 million increase last year) = $7,084.85 per student
One of these is not like the others!
https://www.wake.gov/departments-government/budget-management-services/fiscal-year-2026-adopted-budget#:~:text=The%20Wake%20County%20Board%20of%20Commissioners%20adopted,and%20libraries**%20Access%20to%20parks%20and%20libraries
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/education/article288168785.html
https://www.guilfordcountync.gov/news/press-releases/2025/06/18/board-commissioners-approves-balanced-8473-million-budget-fiscal-year-2025-2026
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article300077249.html
Your Guilford county number is off. Per THIS article by Scott, the local funding ask from the county is $307 million this year which is $4,582 per student using the latest number I have of 67k students in Guilford county.
Did you read Scott’s article before posting? or are you claiming Scott is incorrect in his reporting?
I put a link straight to the county budget book…you want me to read it to you too, professor?
I pointed to your mistake. Want me to point you to the data in this article?
You can’t make these things up folks. Thanks for “the rest of the story”, Bob.
I would love to see our teaching positions funded so that educators are in the top ten performers of wages, but the history of GCSS has been one of more money, fewer students, and poor performance, and bloated staff.
Not just no, heck no.
“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results “
Well actually, it looks like Bob Ross did make it up. (or more fairly, made a mistake in his comparison)
Critical thinking skills are important when reading comments online. One would think that big of a difference would have been news in itself, so a quick check back into the article shows Bob Ross made a mistake with his numbers.
It appears Bob, used total funds allocated for Guilford County but only used ‘local funds’ for Wake and Charlotte-Meck schools. A critical thinking person would have seen such a large disparity in the numbers as a reason to go back and check their work. But if you have an agenda, why bother I guess.
Just Sayin
It is sad when I even went to the trouble of providing everyone links to the county budget documents for all of the numbers I presented and some people still wont read or take the time. The comparison is county expenditure.
If I had crayons I could draw it for you…Page 114 in the Wake County book, Page 102 in the Guilford County Book, and plain as day in the CMS news article. Maybe you can google read it to you since you seem to struggle.
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Bob, that guy simply refuses to accept any arguments or data that prove him wrong. Rebel once said that debating with him is like pissing in the wind. It’s frustrating because he has no intellectual integrity, so he will never, ever, admit to being mistaken, even when it is perfectly obvious that he’s wrong.
He’s a little child who can’t admit it when he’s wrong.
Sad.
Maybe you two should read your articles more carefully. Bob clearly left out the capital and debt for Wake and Mech but included the capital and debt for Guilford county. Per the articles linked:
Wake County Operating Budget 742.9 million from 2.1 total county allocated budget
Mech County Operating Budget 653 million plus another 33 million in one-time capital
Guilford County Operating Budget 282.5 million from 468 total county allocated budget
When calculating unit costs, capital is excluded typically and only should include depreciation of the capital expense given the projects depreciate over 20 years or more.
So yes, your numbers are wrong. All three articles clearly split out operating and total budgets, yet you included total budget for Guilford (minus GTCC) while only including the operating budgets from Wake and Mech counties.
Easy mistake to make. Just takes a little critical thinking when looking at the results of your ‘analysis’ to dig a bit deeper into the numbers as Bob presented to understand the mistake.
But you be you.
No response Austin? Still want to defend Bob Ross’s misreading of the figures in the articles?
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Oh, you misunderstand Chrissy, as usual. My comment referred to your inability to admit your errors, without getting in the weeds regarding whatever articles you and Bob are arguing about. I made no comment in that respect.
I have a life, which means that disproving your claims yet another time is not worth the time required to do so.
At least not this time.
Riiiiight. Duck and dodge now that you understand I was right in my reading of the sources Bob provided and Bib was wrong. Got it.
I notice Bob hasn’t come back again to defend his mistake.
Oh well.
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You can construe Bob’s silence as your victory if you like, but you construe everything to be a personal victory, which was precisely the point I was making.
You are perfectly correct at all times in everything you assert – in your own mind. It must be an interesting little World you live in.
Incidentally, I concede your point that my social circle may not represent the entire universe of home schooled children. That is a valid point.
See… it doesn’t hurt to admit it when your opponent is right about something.
You should try it one day.
Bob doesn’t like wrestling with pigs
You morons don’t even bother to read the article before claiming I am the one wrong or that I don’t lkle to admit I am worng…… not shocked.
Stay stupid boys. It suits you.
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If we are morons, you’re an [deleted].
Austin,
When I was in the military, we called these type wind dummies. A person that was dropped before everybody else to make sure the rest of us hit the DZ.
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Ha, ha, ha… ! Good one Patrick!
Kinda like the Democrat vote totals over the past three national elections.
Austin, Chris, is right in this remark; the state of North Carolina is ranked 50th in teacher pay. There is a point for parents to be concerned at the level of education students recieve considering how little the state considers the education of the youth. Most parents resort to homeschooling to get their child ahead of their age level in the state and prepare them for high school, so they have a better shot at their pursuits. Hope this helps.
The challenge comes from the State failing to fund public education as they drop tax rates for corporations to zero and lower individual income taxes. In 2000, NC was 30th in funding on a per pupil bases with teachers paid better than approximately half of the other states. Now, NC is last in funding per pupil in the nation and teachers pay has dropped to 44th compared to other states.
As the State abandons NC education, local governments are pressured to make up the difference. So far, they haven’t….they have just cut cut cut and shocker…..quality of public education in NC continues to decline. And the conservatives want to blame the teachers.
Sad really.
No we will not continue to reinforce failure.
Enrollment is down – homeschooling, private schools, and charter schools are thriving for a reason. We should be cutting administrators and bureaucracy not asking for more money
I don’t know if homeschooling is actually thriving….I have engaged with a group of homeschool kids who are supposed to be at the 4th grade level and they can’t read. I am not saying all homeschooling is bad but I am saying not all kids being home schooled are being properly educated.
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My wife has no professional qualifications in education. She has a Bachelor’s Psychology degree from UNC-G. When our sons began in public schools we very quickly became horrified at the egregious incompetence of it all. We love our sons, and this crap was not going to be good enough for them.
We decided that she would try to home school, and in addition to losing her income I had to pay for courses and books, and projects and other things I can’t even remember now. We managed, but it was not easy.
The older boy won a “Free Ride” to MIT. I only had to buy his particular laptop. The annual 1099 we received from MIT for the value of his Free Ride was more than my entire annual income.
The younger boy also won a Free Ride – from UNC- Chapel Hill.
Their tertiary education cost me just two laptops.
Home schooling your children is the only way to go if you love them. The government schools are an open sewer of incompetence, indifference, violence, bullying, breathtaking mediocrity and sexual predation.
It’s basically child abuse, so as to provide easy-peasy paid occupations for tens of thousands of people who are reliable Democrat voters.
It’s disgusting. Just disgusting.
You should be very proud of your wife and kids. Good for them.
I am. Thank God we exited the government schools…. ASAP.
there are many quality public schools in the area that reflect the quality of the students, parents culture & school staff & infrastructure. letz fund LOCAL boarding schools because there r no bad apples just wrong barrels ? start with the hebrew school then encourage other relig affiliated schools open. good jobs recent grads ready to make it happen RIGHT HERE oak ridge military BAPTIST CHILDRENS HOME SOCIETY st platypus shinola house . . .
abandon all the infrastructure except well paid teachers working with 20 – 30 students from their spacious homes & on the net. all the other wonderful ‘school’ stuff will be privatized & scattered like raisi ns where people congregate. no more cafeteria bus football team security guard bathrooms HVAC in big, expensive barns – all ‘farmed out’ to private enterprise experts. profitable ‘gig’ work will >. choice closeby getchoo off the highway
This time you sparkled.
what about the other times was that just markling?
stopped by that beauty parlor i pass often, ducked in all movement speech sound stopped as they stared @ me. ‘ U All so beautiful i just had to see it happening thnx’ ran like hell
maybe this is a sign you should compete in the county wide beauty pageant
You should run for City Council. You make more sense than they do.
i second this motion !(i dont know if thats enough signatures im not very versed in robs rules of order)
fund TEACHERS NOT SCHOOLS & get the ‘fleas’ off our career teachers. testing students often by guvmnt will winnow out the less affective/effective teachers motivated by GAINFUL pay n perks
i hired a bot to do this job while i care for abandoned puppies etc
Sure, they see the new appraisals. $$$$$
Years ago someone asked me why people that had no kids had to pay school taxes. I let him have it. Now I get it…especially with all of the private and charter schools around.
No. Reduce excessive school admin and other programs which serve no purpose. It is rather obvious additional money has not solved the issue of students acheiving grade level competence. I doubt the billions to build new schools will help students now or the current and future parents paying for the current boondoggle these commissioners and school board have created along with the voters who had no clue what they were voting for.
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It’s just become taxpayer abuse, hasn’t it?
It’s obscene.
Taxpayer abuse is their raison d’etre. I have abused myself less successfully…..
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LOL ! Good one, Miller !
might as well throw money into a big ol pit. them kids wont learn nothing more and theres no use trying. all these kiddos nowadays are dumb as rocks and throwing money at them wont solve any problems. they will just use it to buy candy and new whiteboard pointers with pointing hands in pretty colors pink polka dots etc
From a performance side evaluation, per GCS Academic Ready page, only 29% of 3rd-8th graders in traditional GCS public schools were performing at proper reading levels in 2025 and only 32% were performing at proper math levels. 31% of GCS students were chronically absent. These numbers show just how bad of a situation GCS is in.
Parents are going to do what is best for their children. Since 2016, every year has seen a decrease in traditional public school enrollment in NC. In Guilford County, about 74% now attend traditional public schools and some might argue that the number could be closer to 70% depending on how many school eligible children actually reside in Guilford County. The movement has been toward charter schools with even more being added in coming years in Guilford County(The waiting lists for gaining entry are very long.), private schools with over 105,000 NCstudents now on Opportunity Scholarships in 2025/26 and over 40,000 more applications received for 2026/27, and home schooling. Guilford County is closing 4 elementary traditional public schools over the next year or so. GCS is projecting thru their own studies lower traditional public school enrollment in coming years.
From a Guilford County tax money supply perspective, Guilford County residents are being squeezed with property revaluations averaging 45% or more in 2026. We shall see what happens with the high $0.73/$100 property tax rate, a tax rate that is much higher than Wake, Meck, and Forsyth counties as well as the average NC county rate. Greensboro was rated 3rd highest of the 100 largest U.S. cities with about a 15% delinquency rate of being able to pay bills on time by Wallet Hub. Poverty is about 18% in our area. Eviction rates are one of the worst in Guilford County out of the 100 NC counties. Of the 15 largest metropolitan areas in NC, Greensboro/High Point came in at 12th in terms of population growth from 2020-2025 per latest census. The 3rd largest county in NC has one of the slowest growth rates in NC while Wake, Meck, and Brunswick come in the top ten in the country. People would rather live elsewhere in NC than this county.
If you want to fix GCS schools, get rid of the focus on admin costs and put the emphasis on teachers in the classroom. Admin costs have exploded while teachers in the classroom have not kept up. Emphasis needs to be on basics in the classroom with teachers being alllowed to discipline and getting those who want to disrupt removed. Get cell phones out of the classroom.
Have school counselors conduct surveys that detect students in difficult home situations and try to get positive roll models in those students lives. (The number of students with single parent families is extremely high in GCS as well as the number of students in foster care.) Emphasis on school education in the home is critical. We see average Asian student and Jewish student test scores much higher. Why??? Emphasis is placed in the home on education and family. As a result, we see higher test scores, higher graduation rates from college, higher family median family income.
This GCS School Board has been very lacking in leadership based on results being seen. A change is needed there as well.
disappear ‘classrooms’ & replace with cozy ‘coffee shop’ style dens of EDU with food rewards @ every ‘get together’ (not class). vary meeting locations including teacher/student homes. disappear ‘classroom’ history etc club meeting @ . . . call the topic specific get togethers ‘salons’ math salon etc
a 9% jump means nothing to me because i have 2 pogo sticks . fly bar !
Are student test scores and SATs improving or are we still trailing India. America spends more per student than any of the industrialized nations, yet our scores continue to pale. More money for less gain? Yep. That’s Guilford county.
Hey fellas, let’s get some facts straight.
The school board freely admits public school enrollment will drop by about 17% by 2030. The new STEM school the school board insisted they needed in Colfax, has now been ‘shelved’ because it will not have enough students. BTW, we were first told it would cost $39 Million and current estimates are $80 Million…and that is without a single shovel of dirt being dug. All the wasted time, money and lost tax revenue from tax producing properties that are now tax exempt. Not to mention all the frustration of the residents who complained the school was not a fit for the area and could not support that number of students.
Now the school board wants 9% MORE MONEY in the next budget. WHY? The school board says students are getting better…but better than what? If students are still performing below grade level, I suppose saying they are only 2 or 3 grades behind in their learning is better than saying that are 5 or 6 years behind in their learning. But does that ‘success’ really warrant more money for poor performing school and teachers? Too bad these still uneducated kids are being ‘promoted’ to the next grade even though they lack the skills to be successful. What kind of future leaders will they be if that don’t know the difference between to, too and two or how much 2+2 equals without using their smart phone or a calculator.
When schools fail to do their job-teaching students-why should teachers and school administrators get more money? Why does the school system want 9% more money? That is 3X the rate of inflation! They have $2 BILLION in bond money. Why can’t they use some of that? Who does the school board think is going to be able to give them 9% MORE MONEY when Guilford property taxes are going up 40% AND the county board wants to RAISE THE SALES TAX. The property tax increase will be $175 MILLION and the Sales tax Increase will be $20, $30 or $40 MILLION and is a PERMANENT TAX HIKE! The school bonds and other Guilford borrowings will cost taxpayers, on average, about $200 MILLION EVERY YEAR for the next 30 to 40 years! The school board must be severely incompetent and/or incapable. With all the tax hikes looming, you would think the Superintendent and school board would be able to pull their head out of the sand (or where ever) and see things the way they really are. STOP TAKING MY MONEY AND WASTING IT ON TEACHES WHO CAN NOT TEACH AND BUILDING SCHOOLS THAN ARE NEEDED. Think the new STEM school in Colfax that was an absolute necessity but has now been scrapped due to declining enrollment. ENOUGH ALREADY!
I know this has probably been said before but I think it bears repeating:
I started elementary school in the mid-60’s here in Greensboro (Braxton Craven – long gone now). We had simple instruction by today’s standards I’m sure, but here’s the difference: By third grade we were learning to write in cursive, and by sixth grade we had most of our basic reading and writing skills. By the time we got to junior high we spent most of our time in class taking notes…. lots and lots of notes. It was by design, and it worked.
The main difference between then and now seems to be discipline and parent involvement. We had plenty of both when I was a kid.
too many ‘one parent’ ‘1/2 parent’ ?
More play-purties to decorate failing govt indoct….uh, schools.
I would never buy something that has proven not to work. Show me the results of spending more and getting nothing in return nor covering the promises made.
How about if I show you the correlation between the state cuts and the deterioration of our public education in NC?
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There has been a huge increase in taxpayer money spent on “public schools” in the last 4 or 5 decades, and academic achievement has nevertheless collapsed to Third World levels.
The US spends more per student than almost every country in the World – and gets complete crap government monopoly “education”.
Good for the US. We live in NC where we are dead last in spending per student due to state cuts in funding.
consider the cost invested per pupil @ the college level public vs private school. 3X more?. if we busted up the ‘family unit’ & made it more ‘communal’ like spartans/athenians lived, would kids ‘educate’ better ?
Guilford County schools are not failing due to lack of money. As the old saying goes “money cannot buy happiness,” money cannot buy successful schools.
until teachers have the power to ‘hang out their individual shingles’ & attract pupils who pay them directly for education rendered, they are not PROFESSIONALS – they are the EMPLOYEES of a system managed ‘by committee’. get rid of the ‘overhead’ of guvmnt teacher & make a good PROFIT with your skillset ! use the web/computer/iphone extensively with facetime individually & in groups. live in the middle of your market & GET OFF THE HIGHWAY !