Two-third bonds are confusing, and many people don’t fully understand these special types of after-the-fact bonds. However, local government leaders across the state – not just in Guilford County – understand that financial vehicle very well, because it can be a useful tool when officials need to find money for projects that might not win voter approval.
All of this is why voters who approve large bond referendums need to understand exactly what they’re voting on.
The $2 billion in school bonds was presented as a $2 billion referendum – which it was. But what often doesn’t get emphasized is that the total repayment will be far higher. With interest, that $2 billion will likely cost taxpayers more than $3.2 billion over time, depending on interest rates.
But that’s only part of the story.
State law also allows counties to borrow additional money using what are called “two-thirds bonds.” After a county begins paying down its voter-approved debt, it can then borrow back up to two-thirds of the amount it paid off the previous year – without going back to voters.
And it can continue doing that time after time.
One way to understand two-thirds bonds is that they don’t provide a one-time, fixed pool of money like the county’s roughly $2 billion school bond package does. Instead, they create a recurring borrowing mechanism tied directly to how much existing debt is being retired.
For example, if Guilford County is paying down hundreds of millions of dollars in principal over time, that could translate into something on the order of $200 million in additional borrowing authority through two-thirds bonds. But here’s the thing: that $200 million doesn’t come all at once. It becomes available gradually, year by year, as older debt is paid off.
Just as important, two-thirds bonds don’t have a built-in end date unless the county chooses to stop using them.
If county leaders issue new two-thirds bonds whenever that authority becomes available, the county can remain in a rolling cycle where old debt is continually replaced with new debt. In that sense, while voters never approve an “infinite” bond all at once, the structure of the law allows borrowing to continue indefinitely.
Unlike the school bonds – which are a defined amount with a clear payoff period – two-thirds bond borrowing could, in practice, go on forever.
Over time, that means the total amount borrowed through this mechanism could become extremely large. Not because it happens all at once, but because it continues, time after time, as long as officials choose to keep using it.
The only way it stops is if the county decides to stop issuing new two-thirds bonds and allows the remaining debt to be fully paid off.
Hopefully, even this current group of spend-happy commissioners would never do something so extreme as to treat multibillion-dollar school bond referendums as a continuous line of, say, a century of revolving debt. But the authority the Board of Commissioners has from that school bond debt is quite frightening – and county officials have made it clear that they intend to use some two-thirds bonds in the coming years, which is going to push that $3.2 billion school bond debt to even higher levels.
Who knows, the voters who checked yes on the last two school bond referendums that add up to $2 billion, may have unknowingly cast a vote for many many millions more.

Guilford County suckers,
I again refer to the infamous P.T. Barnum’s famous quote. That and Lords and Ladies on the Board of Commissars (R and D alike) working to keep you in the dark about this legal ponzi scheme they pull on you. This is a prime example on what they can get away with while relying on the ignorance and apathy of the peasants.
Very good explanation Scott, thank you. One can only hope for less spending but that’s like asking a shark to become a vegetarian.
That goes for R and D alike sadly.
I admit, I am not a financial person. That said I am having an issue following this 2/3 bond thing.
I understand that it in principle it allows you to borrow against payments made against an original debt, which will of course be more than the borrowed amount due to interest.
What I don’t understand is if the 2 billion school bond is subject to this. In paragraph five it sounds like the referendum is subject to this loophole, but then a distinction between school bonds and other debts is made.
The reason I am looking for clarification is for my benefit, number one, but also the headline leads me to believe that an infinite pot of money is now potentially in play.
Thank you.
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Good job Scott. Most know County and City will suck the life out of the citizens. They say the future is bright. Not sure that is correct with the current and probably continued debt the County and City enjoy. Seems like many vote as “instructed”.
The headline is a rhettoricial question.
A very good explanation of the “two-thirds bonds” issue. The one explanation of the “two-thirds bonds” borrowing that is confusing to me is how can part of a school bond debt that has been reduced can now be used for any other purpose than schools. The county is playing games with bonds and with debt. If the county takes on additional debt by borrowing money from paying down the original school bond debt, it would seem to me that the only use for the “two-thirds bonds” should be for schools since that is what the voters approved not for repairs to county buildings and new county buildings. This sounds like a bait and switch scam to me. Get approval of a bond for schools, pay down the school bond debt, and then use the “two-thirds bonds” to borrow money for a reason disconnected from the original bond voters approved, i.e. schools. Am I missing something here, Scott?
You are not missing anything. I personally believe that if people voted for school bonds then that money and that the amount raised should be the amount raised and you should not be able to raise proceeds for other projects using that debt. It is legal in the state of North Carolina but I have always viewed it as a sneaky end run around voter wishes. If they want to do another project – like a new government complex in Greensboro and in High Point, then they should have to put that up for a seperate vote or fund it out of county funds or other funding sources available to the county government.
Please Scott I’m in total agreement about the 2/3’s bond. But you and everyone else should realize that if skip is denied this method for his new “skips government center”. What do think will happen to county property taxes. Revenue neutral. Yeah right.
2/3 of infinite is . . . is .. .. .. iz . . . infinite ?
INfinity/Pi = -0
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Per Grok: “Guilford County voters approved roughly $2 billion in voter-approved school general obligation bonds (cumulative from recent referenda). For the county’s 559,000 residents (who ultimately pay via property taxes), this means a total taxpayer cost of approximately $3.29 billion through 2052 — $2 billion principal plus $1.29 billion in interest at typical North Carolina GO bond rates. That equates to about $5,885 per citizen over the 28-year life of the debt, or an average of **$197 per person per year**.
This is not “infinite” borrowing; the state’s two-thirds rule simply allows the county to issue additional non-voted debt as the approved bonds are repaid (a standard, legal practice used statewide and nationwide). Debt service remains conservative (typically 3–8% of local budgets in NC), and future population growth plus rising property values will further dilute the per-person burden. In short, Guilford taxpayers are on the hook for a sizable but finite, voter-approved school investment — not unlimited blank-check authority.”
My take is that maybe I don’t want the predicted growth, and would prefer lower spending, and no local debt.
I got interested in this article’s ramifications so asked Grok about whether this will improve educational outcomes: “No — research consistently shows weak or inconsistent correlations between student performance and raw school funding, construction spending, broad teacher salary increases, or technology in schools.
Decades of rigorous studies (including hundreds reviewed by economist Eric Hanushek) find no strong systematic link between higher per-pupil spending and test scores or graduation rates once family background is accounted for; U.S. real spending per student has more than doubled since the 1970s with essentially flat long-term NAEP results. School construction (precisely what Guilford’s ~$2B voter-approved bonds fund) shows the weakest returns: large-scale studies find little to no achievement gains overall, with only modest effects (0.04–0.08 standard deviations long-term) from basic repairs like HVAC or safety upgrades in high-need districts — flashy new buildings or athletic facilities mostly raise property values, not scores.
Teacher salaries have slightly better evidence: targeted 10% raises can modestly improve retention and cut dropouts, but blanket increases show limited impact. Technology often disappoints — meta-analyses reveal small positive effects in narrow, well-implemented cases (e.g., specific computer-assisted learning), but broad device rollouts or excessive screen time frequently yield neutral or negative academic results.
For Guilford’s 559,000 residents footing the $3.29 billion total bill ($5,885 lifetime per person), this means the construction-focused investment is unlikely to deliver meaningful performance gains on its own — local NAEP proficiency remains around 30% despite above-average per-pupil spending. Non-school factors and smarter allocation (not just more dollars) drive far more results.”
Wow.
Guilford County has become just another pit of matured tax and spend politicians and appointees. The recent sucker punch in the face to homeowners by the county on residential values says it all. They could have simply arbitrarily doubled homeowners tax bills and dispensed with all the fancy number juggling and ensuing meritless homeowner complaints. Note to self: Never vote for any bond issue, let them stick their sorry necks out and try to sell a specific idea they want funded.