Guilford County commissioners are set to vote to approve, on Thursday, March 5, a budget amendment that would add $250,000 to the county’s Juvenile Detention budget and authorize payments to the State of North Carolina for housing certain Guilford County juveniles in state-run detention facilities.
Doug Logan, the director of the Guilford County Juvenile Detention Center, is making the request to the board.
The Juvenile Detention Center manages the daily population of juveniles housed at the county facility. Over the past year, the department has experienced increased challenges – both operational and security related – to housing older juveniles, those ages 16 and 17, together with younger residents.
According to detention staff, those challenges include program limitations in delivery, increased staffing and supervision demands, and elevated safety and security risks for both juveniles and staff.
To help manage that population mix and maintain safe operations, the department has been using the option of placing certain Guilford County juveniles in state-operated facilities. That’s where the cost comes in: the State of North Carolina assesses a rate of $150 per night for each Guilford County juvenile housed in its facilities.
In the first six months of the current fiscal year, which began on July 1, 2025, the costs associated with those state facility bed stays have exceeded $200,000.
Based on current trends, county staff are communicating to the county commissioners that additional appropriations are required to continue that practice through the remainder of fiscal year 2025-2026.
Guilford County operates under a Memorandum of Agreement with the State of North Carolina governing juvenile detention cost sharing. Under that agreement, the state reimburses the county for a portion of costs associated with operating the county’s detention facility – including 50 percent of the projected cost for Guilford County juveniles housed locally and 100 percent of the projected cost for out-of-county juveniles housed locally.
The requested action before commissioners pertains specifically to payments made by Guilford County to the state for housing certain county juveniles in state facilities when it’s deemed appropriate for operational and safety reasons.
The commissioners are taking the money from the General Fund budget – that is, essentially, the county’s savings account, to the tune of $250,000.
The agenda materials for the March 5 meeting note that the Guilford County Juvenile Detention Center will track daily state placements, nightly costs and remaining budget authority, as well as report monthly to the county’s Budget Department to make sure that the spending remains within the bounds of the approved appropriation.
County leaders are also evaluating long-term population management strategies – including things like age separation practices and coordination with the state – to reduce the county’s continuing reliance on state-operated placements when possible and fiscally responsible.
The practice aligns with North Carolina juvenile detention standards that require appropriate age separation as well as satisfactory
How about charging the parent(s) with neglect and fine them equal to the amount anyone else charges us to house their delinquents?
This is absolute insanity! Guilford County is getting robbed blind, and the Liberal mongloloids in our government are just sitting there laughing in our faces while a quarter of a million dollars disappears because a bunch of entitled juvenile malefactors can’t be kept under control?! $150 a night per kid?! Are you kidding me?! That’s not “management,” that’s a full-blown taxpayer heist!
And who’s responsible? Skip Alston. That lazy, spineless bastard is sitting there like a SLOTHFUL DOLT, twiddling his thumbs while we pay for an army of these so-called “bad boys and girls” to lounge in luxury detention centers at our expense. This isn’t just incompetence, it’s brazen corruption, a diabolical plot to reward lawlessness and punish hardworking families!
Families in Greensboro are busting their asses, working two, three jobs just to survive, while Alston and his cronies piss our money away on this juvenile [Deleted]tshow. And that “age separation” excuse? Total sophistry, code for “we can’t control them, so taxpayers pay!” NO. Enough is fucking enough. I want every dollar traced, every decision questioned, and I want Skip Alston dragged through the political mud until he pays for this mess.
This isn’t politics as usual; this is a war on common sense, on hardworking Americans, and it’s happening right in front of our eyes. Skip Alston needs to face the wrath of the voters, and I don’t mean politely; I mean politically obliterated for this blatant theft and corruption!
For all I care, these kids can STARVE TO DEATH!!!!!
“I had rather the President should die than sign that puerile instrument.”
“By doing good with his money, a man, as it were, stamps the image of God upon it, and makes it pass current for the merchandise of heaven.”
– “Dictator John”
finally someone not afraid to speak the truth. we need strong conservatives like you in our government so we can save this beautiful city while we still can. what a brave soul you are i applaud your efforts
I disagree with you on this one. Hurling invectives at different people, while invoking the name of God in the same article don’t fly.
yeah thats true miller. i didnt appreciate the scriptural invokement or the expressed want for child starvation either. maybe tone it down a smidgen there mr rutledge. there are lines that we dont cross in these here times. otherwise i loved your statement it was a masterpiece of prose
Classic conservstive with only hate for those he does not know or personally benefit from. Then he turns around and tells you he is a Christian after telling you he would rather see troubled teens starve to death under the States watch. Got it.
Pathetic.
If you want a new sheriff you must vote for Billy Queen. We saw the catastrophic failure of candidate Byrd in the last election getting beat by over twenty one thousand votes. People are seeing through Byrd’s fluffed up cotton candy resume. Billy Queen has the legitimate experience and education and is the only candidate strong enough to beat Rogers in November. Wasting another vote on Byrd will certainly hand Rogers another victory like the last time. Vote Billy Queen.
I have met Mr. Byrd. He is fine with me. Unless the conservatives get the vote out, we will get Shurf Rogers again, regardless of opposition.
A juvenile detention center named Skillman Training School for boys ages 8 to 14 in Skillman NJ worked very well for these kids in the 1970’s It is closed now since the 90’s. Age 14 was the obvious physical maturity age that should be in the population of this age range.
back when i was a kiddo and i lived out in pearl mississippi with my old man, we used to have some family friends that always seemed to be gettin into trouble. their youngest, barty got sent to the local juvy when i was in the 8th grade. we had been best buds but he had finally got busted for possession with intent to distribute. when i say juvie changed oh boy did it change him. when he came outta there he was 10 times as violent. it was like he had been holding in all that violence until he was released. boy that kid went on a rampage. he knocked 10 of the playground boys unconscious in one hour. that juvenile detention facility mustve treated him like a king. no wonder mississippi’s so poor. glad i got outta that place…dang libs. same thing will not be happening here as long as i am on this here earth
OH, FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING, GUILFORD COUNTY! LISTEN UP — THIS INSANE $250,000 BLOWOUT FOR THE JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER? IT’S ALL ON SKIP ALLSTON, AND I MEAN ALL OF IT! That’s right. Every dime of this quarter-million-dollar dumpster fire? Skip Allston’s fingerprints are all over it. You want operational “challenges”? You want age separation? You want $150 A NIGHT PER KID sent to the state like they’re staying at some luxury resort? That’s Skip Allston’s idea of leadership, apparently.
The man’s out here running the county like it’s his personal playground while the taxpayers are left holding the bag. Folks bustin’ their humps paying property taxes, struggling to keep food on the table, and what do they get? Skip Allston throwing their money at a juvenile detention system that can’t even handle its own kids. That’s right — we’re paying for his bureaucratic incompetence, his soft, woke fantasies, and his complete inability to manage a damn building.
And the commissioners? Y’all better take a good, long look at who’s leading this clown show. It ain’t some faceless “operations problem” — it’s Skip Allston calling the shots, patting himself on the back, and tossing $250,000 like it’s candy while the people of Greensboro sweat over every dollar.
This isn’t just mismanagement. This is outright theft of taxpayer money by proxy, cloaked in “safety” and “state standards” nonsense. People are scraping by, keeping the lights on, putting food on the table, and Skip Allston is sitting in his swivel chair, cackling as he sends your money to the state so his little juvenile utopia doesn’t have to, you know, actually work.
If this passes, I swear on everything, I’m gonna march into the next commissioners’ meeting and SCREAM SKIP ALLSTON’S NAME UNTIL THE CEILINGS SHAKE. Greensboro, WAKE UP! Stop letting Skip Allston torch your hard-earned money while he pretends to be a responsible adult. Stop it before it’s too late, because if this keeps up, the only thing left standing will be a smoldering pile of YOUR tax dollars.
Harold, Please tell us how you really feel, then get out and convince others we need to rid ourselves of Skip the Omnipotent.
Another Snafu but guaranteed numerous DEI hires/ votes for Skip. Once again your tax dollars whizzed into the wind. What are all Skip’s pet projects doing with the give away tax dollars? Same question for the past and present city council members. Guilford County and Greensboro have numerous ” programs ” doing the same thing just different names. You’re tax dollars at work and lots of purchased votes .
how successful has our facility been @ keeping kids ‘lawful. successful’ when they leave ?
clearly not at all. we need politicians that are tough on crime and will make greensboro safe
I believe that we should sent these youthful spirits to the foothills of the himaylas where ISIS is hiding out from the US government’s eye and we must find them and execute their leaders and bring prosperity back to our country and make Bushy Boy proud.
that is going to cost a lot of taxpayer dollars but at least itll actually fix the problem. i support. we dont have enough time to think of a better and cheaper alternative we can do that after we fix the youngsters. if we wait too long before you know it these same youngsters will be skips proteges doing anything he says…
they are in training to become ‘community organizers’ & ‘nonprofit executives’
I have a real simple answer… Isn’t there around 800 acres north of Gibsonville, that’s sitting that is not being used?
It was called The County Farm,when I was growing up it was where they would put alcoholics ,D.U.I.s breaking and entering non-violent offenders .Also the farm was self sufficient and basically paid for it’s self. Anyway why not open it back up let these kids get on straight path.
The farm gave off too much resemblance to the plantation and had to go in these modern times.
Yur PC police at verk.
when the children of the wealthy need ‘a change of environment’ they go to a boarding school. let’s do that with the hebrew school, oak ridge military academy etc ?
agreed. sometimes the best course of action is just the good ol boarding school
it might be cheaper & more affective.
Let’s make it clear: our county can accommodate these 16 and 17-year-old offenders, but lacks the necessary skills for their management. Consequently, Guilford County has decided to ask the state to house them with older criminals, at a discounted rate of $150.00 per day per teenager.
This year, our county has already spent $200,000 for this educational opportunity for our teenagers and plans to allocate another $50,000, totaling $250,000. If this new allocation is meant to cover the entire year, why wasn’t it included in this year’s budget? We’re asking the state to care for our youth while we pay taxes to house them locally.
This raises a crucial question: where is the money already allocated for their incarceration here?
I will end with this thought:
If Guilford County is paying North Carolina $250,000 a year, and there are 100 counties in North Carolina, well, you do the math.
After reading my post, I thought of another important question: how many other counties in North Carolina depend on the state to educate their 16 and 17-year-old teenagers to become career criminals? What does this indicate about Guilford County’s capabilities and the current situation of our teenage offenders?
Why was my post removed?
it wasnt removed its just that sometimes them rhino times comments take a bit to show up. i dont know why i wish it could be fixed
Why does Guilford County operate its own juvenile detention center? Why not let the state be responsible for juvenile delinquents. There are three counties that operate centers: Durham, Forsyth and Guilford. The remaining centers are operated by the state. Why? Yes, the county would have to pay the state for housing the juvenile but would not be responsible for paying employees to run the facility and its upkeep. Someone in the Guilford County finance department needs to do a cost analysis of the difference in state v. Guilford County centers factoring in all county costs associated with Guilford County running its own detention center paid for by Guilford County property taxpayers.
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Repeal the liberal law that Cooper signed requiring 16 & 17 year olds committing serious crimes to be separated from “big boy jail.” The constant denial by cuty & county leaders that gangs run rampant is fascinating. The easier you make it for those calling the shots to manipulate youngsters, the more you’ll have to deal with. Very few are without affiliation or influence from gangs. NC defines a gang as 3 or more individuals who share in criminal activity (or attempted crimes) and have a common name, symbol or sign, be it formal or informal. Oops! By that definition The libertarian in me just pictured the gang of nine sitting at the dais. If for no other reason, its hard to deny this year’s tax situation is at a minimum attempted theft.
agree. alexander the great conquered all the kingdoms around macedonia by age 18 then every other major power in mid asia & the mediterranean sea by 26 (i just vaguely remember ages)