Chairman of the Guilford County Board of Commissioners Skip Alston is preparing to launch a new county initiative that would put county-operated vans on the road visiting homeless encampments, wooded areas and the scattered pockets of people living behind stores, hotels and industrial buildings from Greensboro to High Point.
The purpose is simple and direct: find homeless residents where they actually are, offer them transportation to shelters or treatment if they want it, and, if they don’t, at least give them blankets, food, and other basic supplies they need to stay alive on nights like the ones the county has experienced lately.
Alston hasn’t formally presented the plan to the Board of Commissioners yet; however, as everyone in Guilford County government knows, once Alston wants something, it usually happens.
He said he’ll be asking his colleagues for support for what he thinks is a great idea.
What’s interesting is that the idea didn’t come from a consultant, a task force or a policy paper. It came from a conversation Alston had with a homeless man during one of the county’s point-in-time counts.
Alston said the man told him he genuinely wanted to get off drugs but had no way to reach any of the existing treatment or shelter options.
“He said he’d go get services if he could,” Alston said, recounting the conversation. “But he said he couldn’t get downtown. He was living behind Sam’s Club and staying around that area. He said, ‘I don’t have transportation. I can’t get all the way down there, so I stay where I can. The same guys are around here. When they drink, I drink. When they use drugs, I use drugs. I can’t get out of this environment.’”
Alston said it hit him immediately: if the county wants people to get treatment or shelter, especially the ones who say they want help, it has to meet them where they are.
The homeless man laid the problem out well: without transportation, nothing else works. Walking miles to downtown shelters isn’t practical. It’s even less practical at night or in freezing weather. And many homeless residents with addictions simply can’t leave the environment that keeps them using unless someone physically takes them out of it.
“Damn, you’re right,” Alston told the homeless man.
That conversation is what sparked the van idea.
Alston said the people who would drive the vans would know the locations where homeless residents regularly stay. The county already knows most of them from repeated point-in-time counts: behind Sam’s Club, behind Walmart, along the wooded areas near hotels off Stanley Road and behind assorted commercial buildings.
Alston said that outreach teams already go to these places periodically, but a structured van-based system would make it consistent and systematic.
The plan is to have the vans out – especially on dangerously cold nights – offering rides to shelters as well as providing emergency items on the spot.
If a person doesn’t want to go to a shelter, they’d still get blankets, food and whatever basics might help them survive.
Alston said this isn’t about forcing anyone into treatment or pushing anyone into a shelter they don’t want to be in. It’s just about offering options that right now many homeless residents simply can’t reach.
“You don’t believe it’ll be below freezing,” Alston said, speaking of how cold nights create a life-and-death scramble. “You should have three or four vans going around.”
The vans won’t solve the larger issue of limited shelter capacity, but Alston said the county’s broader homelessness strategy is finally starting to take shape after years of agencies, municipalities and nonprofits all working in different directions. He said the county, Greensboro and High Point are more coordinated than ever, though still not where he wants them to be.
“We’re about sixty percent there,” he said. “We’re more on the same page now than we’ve ever been.”
Part of what gives the county confidence in moving ahead with the vans is that it’s the connective tissue to the current plans to address homelessness. Several major facilities are finally coming online after years of planning delays.
First among them is the long-term substance-abuse treatment center being opened in the old nursing home on Lees Chapel Road. The county is cutting the ribbon in January, and Alston said it will provide more than sixty beds for residents who need long-term recovery.
Daymark will staff and operate that building.
Once that center opens, the county will move employees out of another building, freeing it up to become the Women and Children’s Empowerment Center. That facility is projected to include about thirty beds and could be operating sometime next year.
Alston said having those beds finally available will relieve pressure on short-term shelters, create an actual place to take people who want treatment and make the van system far more effective.
“Once we get the long-term treatment center open,” the chairman said, “that will free up some of the spaces in these short-term stays.”
On top of those projects, Guilford County still works with city-run shelters and the IRC, and the van drivers would know in real time which ones have openings. The idea is that no one offering help should be guessing where a bed might be.
The county also still has some unspent ARPA money that can be used for certain homelessness initiatives, including facility upgrades and shelter needs. Alston said recent task force recommendations resulted in about $95,000 going to High Point shelters and their Housing Authority to address building needs.
Even with the progress Guilford County has seen, he said, the region isn’t completely aligned – and a task force can only recommend funding, not grant it.
Municipalities ultimately have to respond to the recommendations.
But Alston said cooperation is improving and the new facilities finally give the county the infrastructure it’s lacked for years.
He said transportation often gets overlooked when local governments talk about homelessness.
Alston added that it’s unreasonable to expect someone to walk miles from a wooded camp to a downtown building at night – especially if they’re dealing with addiction or mental-health issues, or if the weather can kill them.
“They can’t walk all the way downtown,” he said. “We can’t expect them to.”
Alston, who was just elected chairman of the board for a tenth time, plans to bring the proposal to the Board of Commissioners after the long-term treatment center opens.

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When are the REAL people of Guilford County going to get out their pitchforks, torches, tar and feathers and march on the Imperial Palace of King Skippy and his Commissar minions (R & D alike) and make it known, in no uncertain terms, that enough is enough. Or are you going to be like the voters of Miami and not get off your duff to go vote. 36,000 sycophants did and turned the city Blue. 36,000 out of how many hundreds of thousands?
To the people of Guilford County; When are you going to turn off The View and Dancing With the Stars, stop ringing your hands and wailing “SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING!!” AND ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS GETTING OUT AND VOTING?
His Royal Highness and his minions (R & D alike) can use OUR money and resources without so much as a ‘by your leave’ instead of turning to all the NGOs they give OUR money to.
Oh, I’m sorry. That would mean wouldn’t get the votes and their raises.
I’m done. You can go back to yourgame shows now.
They are not kidding. As long as the Faithful get out to the ballot box, and conservatives don’t, this is what you get. Not only Miami, but also Austin. Oye como va?
Oh NO!!! Trying to do something to help those that need help what a terrible thing do! What would Christ say? Clearly he would turn his back and tell them to walk in the cold rain or snow.
Chris you really are a moron. I’m willing to bet a dollar to a donut the the person who can’t walk to get help, then is picked up and given a ride will find a way to get back to where they were picked up from by themselves without any help. I’m speaking from experience in dealing with a close family member who is an addict. Been there and done that. If they want help they will find it on their own.
You are making a false assumption that all people on the street are drug addicts. There are many reasons for homelessness. Having the example of on person doesn’t make you an expert. I suggest you read up on the research of homelessness in NC. There is a wealth of interesting information for those that really care.
It may be a start of a program that might be
the start of something.
Make it too good and GSO will be a destination and that is what got us where we are now. If you cater to the street people they have to give city something back that will get them off the street.
Some type of work element is critical for any type of long term solution.
Nearly 40% of County residents receive Medicaid, health care for indigents. This County is a mecca for those on the DSP Dole.
This is largely a myth with the exception of Homeless families.
The evidence on whether generous homeless services are a primary driver for an increase in the overall homeless population due to people relocating is mixed.
One study found that more generous funding for family shelters did lead to a larger family homeless population because families moved to regions with more generous funding.
The same study, however, found no evidence that more generous funding drew new single adults into the local homeless population.
Research notes that while the “magnet effect” is often centered in public discourse, empirical evidence suggests that service seeking is just one of many reasons people experiencing homelessness mov
“One study found…”
I wasn’t aware one study constituted “…empirical evidence…”.
But hey, you be you.
Alan you must be kidding, how dare you to question the almighty Oz of experts. You have to know by now Chris is never wrong
put ‘substance’ dispensers where we would like them to ‘live’ ?
Yeah, put them in Chris’s back yard.
Put them in Chris’s back yard.
you have inspired me to put that worthless dog of mine to work for that kibble !
This has been done for years by the City, and no profit partners. This isn’t some new, innovative idea, but I’m sure it’ll be spun like that by the county.
Alston has a conversation with a homeless man and based on that conversation Alston wants to provide free transportation for homeless people. This individual tells Alston that when his buddies drink, he drinks, when his buddies do drugs, he does drugs. Hello! If these clowns have money for liquor and money for drugs, then by gum they have money for transportation and can provide their own ride to get them out of their predicament.
The reason they have money for alcohol and money for drugs is the bleeding hearts that give them $$$ at intersections thinking they are helping them. Like the signs say in High Point, donate to organizations that actually help. People that give them money contribute to their alcoholism, drug addiction. It should be illegal to solicit on the roadways to start with, then maybe the homeless will go to these shelters to get help. Get them dried out, get them a haircut, shave, shower and find out what skills they have and get them lined up with employment. Don’t just throw them a blanket and a burger to survive a cold night. That is the band aid approach. These encampments are on somebodies’ property where they litter, use the bathroom, etc.. Skip, get your Sheriff buddy to say you are trespassing, and you either go to Jail or we have a shelter that will feed you, let you shower and get a warm night sleep. Skip, would you like them sleeping in your backyard or at your business. Lets clean up Guilford County.
If you build it they will come.
How many times have you heard this story?
“I will stop taking (pick your substance) if only I could get some help “
Having a drug user in the family I’ve heard it so much that I am jaded.
Tough love works, kindness gets the hand bit by the receiver.
I worked at a place that had a (government sponsored) drug “rehab” center next door. Every day of every week of every month I would see the same people lining up outside to get their government sponsored, tax payer funded fix. They claimed it was to offer “help”.
Yeah, right.
Why do this when it is already done? It’d be costly to purchase everything from special vans, food, wages, and, other supplies needed. Then, it’ll up the ante with tents, fans, heaters, cellphones, etc. Why don’t we just build houses for them, and let them live for free? Then, they’ll have the money to buy whatever their choice addiction is, and, become angry, when someone tries to help, or asks them to leave the palace. Yippee Skippe will get his way again, never telling the costs, trials, and pitfalls when his daydream proves unsuccessful.
I know that a church does this already, voluntarily, and they don’t see results like his fantasy imagination. If they truly want help, then, they’d find a path instead of feeding their expensive addictions.
Plan sounds great, but anyone who actually works in this space-not in meetings and email chains, but actually in the grit with the homeless-can tell you that planning initiatives based off of conversation is foolish in the short term at best. Research stated versus revealed preferences and then circle back to the anecdote about the conversation with that homeless man.
I’ve been doing this work for a long time: Moore, Randolph, Guilford, Davidson, Davie, Alamance, Caswell, Person Counties; all the same story with the same tried and failed initiatives.
What have you seen that works? Certainly not ignoring them?
Totally sick of Skip Aston and the misuse of the high taxes paid by the citizens of Guilford County…as this article said, if Skip wants it , he gets it…we already have the insane running the asylum and we give them all the money they want to do it…get out and vote the next round people…Charlotte has been consumed by this liberalism and it is at our back door right now!!
This is nothing but more Skip BS. Taking more tax dollars for more DEI jobs and starting a program based on a conversation with a homeless person. Hello lala land and unicorns.
Maybe Skip and his counter parts in Greensboro should stop the invites and shut the door instead of leaving it wide open. Your bleeding hearts are leaving me financially next in line to be homeless. Your to numerous programs doing the same thing in Guilford County are only good for the people running these programs. But, it seems to get you the votes and power you crave. Sadly, I have become numb to all the begging and excessive taxation for the ineffective pet projects.
If you want to do something right. Stop taxing the retired people that are on fixed income. We would like to own and live in our home without being taxed out of it.
This is the first encouraging Common sense news coming from Government that I have heard in a long time. Thank you Skip, for doing the research yourself, finding a way to implement a solution and doing it instead of Creating another task force or committee.
It would be nice if all of these comments could be printed and copied with copies being sent to every county commissioner. That way they could see how responsible people feel about this plan. They need to listen to somebody other than Skip Alston.
Right on!
The commissioners read this forum.
more proof that the 100+ local nonprofits aren’t affective while their executives pay n perks at least keeps them off the dole ? that ‘van’ will be a vector of disease. pile a bunch of them into a van then onto a highway: wut could possibly go wrong !
It would be cheaper and more efficient to give every homeless person a free lifetime bus pass. They know where the resources are already. The truth about homelessness and drug addiction is it is often a choice. I know it sounds cold but those are the facts. Drug addiction, mental health issues and rejection of authority and responsibility are the culprits, not lack of a ride.
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Yes, you’re right, BJ. Of course it would be cheaper to just give them lifetime bus passes – but that would mean we wouldn’t need dozens of managers, supervisors, administrators, and other parasites.
The purpose of all government programs is to grow government, The people they profess to help are just the pretext for it all.
The whole Parasitic Sector exists to engorge itself, enlarge itself, and seize more power and money for itself.
sounds like all children/people. the quest for independence/affluence/ status etc.
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The Free Market System (“Capitalism”) channels greed into altruism by leading people to provide goods or services for other people in order to accumulate wealth.
Government – or The Parasitic Sector – uses coercion and the threat of forcible incarceration to enrich itself.
Lazy, talentless, stupid, greedy people use this mechanism for self-enrichment, because they do not possess the intelligence, motivation, industry, or dedication to succeed in a competitive free market that works to serve others.
– This is the huge difference between The Productive Sector and The Parasitic Sector. The former relies on free people freely choosing to give up money in return for something they desire. The latter uses coercion and threat to take people’s money.
The former is ethical.
The latter is immoral.
Yeah, give them a free bus pass, to sleep on the buses, cause more problems. Have you heard about Charlotte and the train system (2 stabbed, 1 to death in the past 6 months). They have mental health issues. Shut down the encampments, clean up the properties, get them in the already existing shelters, mental health facilities or jail. This has been going on for years. Quit the band aid approach and wasting law abiding, working, property owners tax payers money. All the previous projects arent working.
i notice that the homeless & their trash accumulate around guvmnt & ‘non-profit’ structures like the central library, historical museum, central / lebauer parks: properties ‘trashed’ with bureaucrat ‘owners’
i notice that the homeless & their trash accumulate around guvmnt & ‘non-profit’ structures like the central library, historical museum, central / lebauer parks: properties ‘trashed’ with bureaucrat ‘owners’. go look
I worked/lived on the Big Island some years ago. There were many homeless, living in a comfortable enviornment. Easy to live in parks, beaches, tents, and vans. I saw a lot of it. Hanalei parks had shower and cooking facilities, vans parked there, etc. A survey there indicated that there were three types of homeless: temporary, by choice, and those who could not cope with life. Roughly 1/3 each. Those who cannot cope can/should be helped.
The DPS wants everyone on the dole. They will be the boss of us. That is their plan.
if everyone is ‘on the dole’, what income/sales/fee tax revenue is there to finance their operation ?
The Federal Reserve.
ditto
BJ Barnes your leadership is dearly missed! Your assessment is spot on. I pray Commissioner Alston doesn’t go down to the jailhouse and interview a prisoner. He may come up with a plan to release them if they promise to obey the law and, of course, vote for him in the next election.
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Hey BJ ! I’m conflicted over who to support in the nasty Sam Page/ Phil Berger race.
Is Page one of the good guys, trustworthy and honest? Or is he disreputable and shady, as the campaign against him charges?
If you read this, please give us some insight into your thinking. It can be subtle – we’ll read between the lines if necessary.
BJ,
You make a very good point, but it would mean someone doesn’t get their kickback.
consider ‘a free lifetime’ uber/taxi pass with guvmnt oversight & retire the bus ? free up traffic flow & reduce transport energy from all fuels ?
BJ BARNES,
Add to that the health factor risk.
If Alston truly wants to help the homeless, rather than providing a van service to make their panhandling easier, why not take a lesson from Tunnels to Towers which is taking old hotels and turning them into apartments for homeless vets. The Howard Johnson just became available.
because of > mental illness in the homeless population, their ‘housing’ must be designed for every ‘incident’ you can imagine making renovations expensive/impossible. prison/psych hospital safeguards huge liability
We’re already paying Emergency Services, Fire, Police, the Sheriff’s Office, DAC, Family Justice, Veterans Affairs, Mental Health, Social Services & Public Health to do this. If Skip wants more, let him buy a van with his own money & ride around doing this. John & Jane Q Public’s teats have runneth dry. These morons won’t stop until we’re all homeless. Cut services, stop hemorrhaging money & cut our taxes.
how many ‘non-profit’ transport services do we already have in guilford county ? i’m guessing 20
Skip already has 2 very large black vans that are used as some type of vehicle entertainment venue. You can see them parked inside his gated compound in front of his Mac mansion. I’m thinking they would work perfectly for what he’s proposing. What about it Skip. Are you ready to put your money where your mouth is.
Next tax increase, my mother-in-law will need van service.
so will i & everyone i know – use as a threat to NOT > tax ?