Protect Our Children
America, we have a problem, a gun violence problem. For those who doubt it, know that we lead the world with 288 school shootings since 2009. Solutions are difficult, because US Senate Republicans have blocked efforts that a majority of Americans support – instituting universal background checks; eliminating the sale of military assault weapons except to collectors; banning the possession or sale of large capacity magazines; removing firearms from those determined to be a danger to others or themselves; and requiring gun owners to keep their firearms under lock and key. Note that none of the above infringe on the ability of responsible citizens to buy and possess guns.
Know this for certain: Republicans in Congress are in control of these outcomes. When and if they will act to legislate these positive deterrents remains to be seen, but their track record thus far gives no indication that they are moved to do so. A plan of action is for each of us is to contact our representatives and demand that these reforms be enacted into law sooner than later. Inaction is not an option.
Passage of stricter gun control laws will not guarantee an end to all future shootings, but taking these initial steps is a starting place to minimize the carnage our children are now experiencing. May God be our guide as we move forward to protect our children and youth.
Let’s look at your statements in more detail…
“…because US Senate Republicans have blocked efforts that a majority of Americans support…” Please post your source or sources. And please make sure they are not sources that have an anti-gun agenda, and please quote numbers when you claim “…a majority of Americans support…”, again ensuring those sources are not anti-gun in their leanings.
“…instituting universal background checks…” That one is open to reasonable discussion.
“…eliminating the sale of military assault weapons…” “military assault weapons” has yet to be defined universally by anyone. That definition could be applied to virtually any weapon carried by any army, including pistols. Again be more specific. Your definition and mine can and will be very different.
“…banning the possession or sale of large capacity magazines…” Again, define the term.
“…removing firearms from those determined to be a danger to others or themselves…” Determined by whom and under what standards. Your standards and mine can and will vary.
“…and requiring gun owners to keep their firearms under lock and key…” So when someone breaks into my house or assaults me in my car or on property, I have to tell them to stop what they are doing while I unlock my safe, retrieve and load my gun, and then be in a position to defend myself and/or others.
“Note that none of the above infringe on the ability of responsible citizens to buy and possess guns.” Infringe, no. Make gun possession senseless, yes.
“Know this for certain: Republicans in Congress are in control of these outcomes.” Are you serious? I won’t even waste my time arguing that unbelievable statement.
“Passage of stricter gun control laws will not guarantee an end to all future shootings…” That statement I agree with 100%. The only problem is “all future shootings” will be one sided in favor of the bad guys.
The purpose of the 2nd Amendment was to ensure the citizens could protect themselves and be able to participate in the defense of their way of life, their colonies and homes, and ensure that an armed body could be gathered for the common defense against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
And by the way Uncle Joe was wrong about citizens owning cannon in the Revolutionary War. Guess who owned and/or purchased the overwhelming majority of those guns.
Many pro-gun politicians want you to believe that ‘only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun’. This is clearly a myth since only 3% of mass shootings have been stopped by a citizen with a gun. (source: 2019 Study by ALERRT (Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training) at Texas State University). 4 times that many mass shooters are stopped by unarmed citizens.
The recent shooting shows us that spending more on ‘militarizing’ the police is a failed strategy. Time for the two political parties to turn their backs on the NRA and work together for real solutions. (Yes, it will take more than one). Switzerland is a model of a country with pro-gun ownership culture with almost NO mass shootings that is showing up in more conversations. Maybe we can explore what works there versus here in America.
“4 times that many mass shooters are stopped by unarmed citizens.”
Really? Cite your source…and make sure it’s not one with anti-gun leanings or agenda.
“Switzerland is a model of a country with pro-gun ownership culture with almost NO mass shootings that is showing up in more conversations.”
You shoot down you own anti-gun argument, except you failed to note that EVERY citizen is required to serve in the military in some capacity except for those with government exemptions and are basically REQUIRED to maintain firearms because EVERYONE is a member of the national defense force.
The reason for “…almost NO mass shootings…” is in your own statement. What kind of idiot would think they could get away with a mass shooting when EVERYBODY has a gun and they would wind up getting shot from 14 different directions? Oh and by the way, I believe everyone there is required to qualify once a year, but I could be wrong.
Finally, “Maybe we can explore what works there versus here in America.” is again you answering your own statement.
I did site my source. Did you actually read what I wrote is get all defensive because I suggest control isn’t working in the US today?
I am NOT anti-gun. I just believe we need stricter controls. Assault weapon bans are just silly at this point given the number of AR-15 riles sold in last 10 years. You will note in Switzerland they have far more controls in place plus one really big one that we don’t have that shoots down your theory of ‘good guy with gun stops bad guys with guns’. It is illegal to carry a load weapon in Switzerland.
Again, they have almost NO MASS shootings. So no need for 14 people firing from all directions (which would just kill random people in cross fire by the way). ‘Good guy with a gun theory just doesn’t prove out’. Only 3% of mass shootings stopped by good guy with a gun.
Don’t get all defensive because you think gun control = gun confiscation or prohibition. We need multiple layers of solutions versus imprisoning ourselves behind locked doors from gun nuts. Clearly what we are doing today (mostly good guy with a gun theory) isn’t working.
Do you really believe the US doesn’t have a major problem with gun murders and mass shootings? Or is the body count ok with you?
Bob, we have a people problem, not a gun problem. People kill people. You can thank LBJ and his freebe Great Society which started generations of people being dependent on the federal government.
How do you make the connection between LBJ policies and today’s gun violence? Do you mean people on Social Security are killers? Sounds like you are grasping at straws. There are far more ‘freebe’ societies that have just as powerful a gun culture as the US yet don’t have our mass shooting issues.
Mr. Kollar appears to be relying on a report from CNN which the network admits is based on their own count of media reports of shootings and not on actual police data. CNN also acknowledges their numbers include, not just K-12 schools, but colleges and vocational schools. Many of the incidents are gang violence, domestic violence, robberies in school parking lots and accidents. CNN analysis of school shootings in 2018 included a student shot with a BB gun. Including bogus, poorly-sourced and debunked data in the conversation doesn’t advance legitimate debate.
According to researchers at Northeastern University, schools are actually safer than they were in the 90s, and school shootings are not more common.
“Since 1996, there have been 16 multiple victim shootings in schools, or incidents involving 4 or more victims and at least 2 deaths by firearms, excluding the assailant,”
If there is going to be a conversation let’s start with factual information.
So how many school shootings are ok from your perspective? So shootings on college campuses shouldn’t be considered an issue? This is the kind of mentality and argument that America a joke to the rest of global modern societies.
Hey Chris, The only joke here is you, but that’s alright. You just keep on drinking the communist Kool-Aid–it’s something you do quite well.
Lol, so commies see dead kids as a problem that needs a real solution…never heard that angle before. You must have taken a different history class that me.
No, Bob, we DON’T have a gun violence problem– we have a moral and criminal problem. No matter what or how many laws you think should be passed, criminals will violate those laws. I’m pretty sure we already have laws against murder. If (since) criminals ignore those laws, what makes you think they will not violate laws pertaining to guns?
When guns are outlawed, only criminals will have guns. And we don’t trust the radical leftists to make fair laws, much less leave us the means to defend our homes and families.
The experts say that none of your “restrictions ” would have prevented this latest tragedy. However armed school security guards would have, as would have armed school teachers and staff. A mental health evaluation could have put the shooter into a mental facility. He gave off plenty of warnings which were ignored.. And remember the church shooting in Texas where the next door neighbor (a law abiding gun owner) heard the shots, ran over and stopped the carnage?
And gun enthusiasts will tell you that Sleepy Joe and his handlers know nothing about the types of guns they want to ban.
Nuff said ?
That’s why republicans need to turn there backs on the NRA and begin working on the issue with real improvements. If they don’t then you are right, ignorant democrats like Biden will drive the policy changes as soon as the get the majority in house and senate one day.
The good guy with a gun strategy of the republicans just isn’t working.
With a majority in the House of Representatives and a tie breaker in the Senate with Kamala Harris, the Democrats in Washington have the ability to pass new legislation.
Secondly, I read nowhere that WE THE PEOPLE actually want these gun controls. Third, MILITARY ASSAULT WEAPONS are not available to the public.
The divisiveness spewed by some only serves to divide WE THE PEOPLE .
Common Sense laws apply to common sense people. Mentally ill people and people who ignore current laws will ALWAYS have guns, even if they have to steal them from collectors.
We cannot turn to a Federal Government that places our Education System 31st in the world to solve this issue. It starts at home and in school and until we return to the moral laws set forth by our CHRISTIAN Founders we can expect more of these tragedies.
1. Republicans in Congress are in control of nothing. The Democratic Party controls the House, the Senate, and the White House.
2. The measures you outline would be utterly futile and would not prevent any madman going on a shooting spree (except the provision to deny access to firearms to the mentally ill).
3. No other nation has the firearms history and culture of the US. America only won its freedom because it defeated the World’s superpower – and that’s because we were armed to the teeth (unlike any other nation). Americans instinctively understand that an armed citizenry is a bulwark against tyranny. Our putative masters understand this too, which is why they’re trying to disarm us.
4. Disarming Americans will never happen (despite the fantasies of Leftists). The genie is already out of the bottle. Americans are armed, and armed to the teeth. This isn’t Britain, where nobody had a gun in the first place. Therefore the solutions are different. You can’t put the genie back in the bottle. It’s too late.
5. One has to ask what’s really going on here. The government is perfectly capable of preventing firearms from entering buildings if it wishes. Just try walking into a jail. courthouse, or airplane with a handgun. But these horrific mass murders in schools add to the political pressure for gun control, and the cynical Democrats never propose measures to stop them. It’s grist to their mill. Real solutions – like allowing teachers to be armed – are quietly suppressed by Democrats.
We all abhor these incidents. The answer is to try to prevent them from happening – not using them to score political points and advance the disarming of Americans. Right?
Where in 2nd Amendment does it enumerate the right to keep and bear arms for “responsible people” only? Why should these same responsible people have any restrictions on gun ownership when criminals and oppressive government bureaucrats have access and use everything from machine guns, greandes, and sonic weapons.
Police have ZERO obligation to actively protect lives unless someone is in custody. Also with current and emerging 3D printing tech guns can and will be soon available and cheap and untraceable. We don’t Need more government rule making we need to spread love and hope to combat desperation and despair. Ending prohibition of drugs would help defund gangs and be a zero cost first step.
Oh right….I forgot the government can read minds? That is how they should be determining who to restrict guns. Duh!
Gun Rights folks say the darndest things. What a joke.
You describe your statements well.
We are not as unique as many want to believe. Firearms regulation in Switzerland allows the acquisition of semi-automatic, and – with a may-issue permit – fully automatic firearms, by Swiss citizens and foreigners with or without permanent residence. The laws pertaining to the acquisition of firearms in Switzerland are amongst the most liberal in the world. Yet only one mass shooting in the last 10 years. They even have the long-standing practice of a militia organization of the Swiss Army in which soldiers’ service rifles are stored privately at their homes.
They require background checks and paperwork for ALL gun transfers, they require training in order to receive may-issue permit. It is illegal to carry a fully loaded weapon except on a gun range. They also have a mandatory military service for all men which helps create a great respect for firearms in general.
Your comments are factually correct. Switzerland has by far the highest gun ownership in the World and guns are everywhere.
It also has essentially zero crime (and no “gun violence”).
How can that possibly be… ??
Note that it is illegal to carry a loaded gun in public. Mmmmmm…..so much for your argument. Try again.
My argument made no reference to that issue.
You try again (i.e. try to refute what I actually said).
Oh and the Swiss have engaged all of the additional controls that you often see proposed by Dems here in the US. Hmmmm… maybe that has something to do with why they have no gun violence? Let’s see…US has far less restrictions on gun ownership…but huge number of mass shootings. Swiss have far more restrictions on gun ownership…but almost NO mass shootings. Hmmm.
Switzerland is 99% white. Hmmm.
switzerland has an homogenous culture without racial conflict. we don’t.
Well Bob The sale of “military assault weapons were banned in 1934 &1938 (supported by the NRA) . The left wants Juvie records of violence expunged so they will not ever show up in after 18 data base. Gun owners allready are required to secure firearms , etc, etc, etc. as has been said before as nausem. ENFORSE the laws on the books. But most of all look at the real problem: 30 years of the breakdown in soceity in our schools. No discipline, no moral compass, teachers not in control and we expect these “little angels ” to not be radicalized to the leftist in this country ?
Nice deflection. Let’s blame the teachers now for mass gun violence in he US. What a joke.
Oh I forgot–Let God be our Guide ? The left blew God out of Schools Long ago Bob–
So God is going to stop mass gun violence? LOL, I don’t think that is how He works. But you be you.
None of the “solutions” mentioned would have made a difference
1. The shooter passed a background check.
2. The military defines an “Assault Weapon” as a fully automatic firearm. The military does not issue
semi-automatic rifles to the troops.
3. Banning large capacity magazines will not make a difference, the magazine in a AR-15 can be changed
in 2-3 seconds.
4. The guy was known to be a kook, if this information is not reported into the system the FFL performing the background check will not know about it.
The best solution is to harden the target with better security(cameras, stronger doors, expelling trouble makers)
just a few ideas.
Train and arm some of the teachers and admin persons. More tactical training for local PD.
The schools were given billions by the Fed for “Covid relief”, much of it still unspent. Here is a good way to use it.
All good points. The voters of Guilford County just gave the schools $2 Billion dollars for construction. Perfect time to increase security at schools.
We can put bars over our windows, razor wire fencing around all stores, schools, concert halls, and homes. Oooo, we need medal detectors too. And let’s hire millions of people to search all bags and guard all doors. School uniforms should be made of bullet proof materials and have helmets too! Maybe then, we feel safe.
Or we can admit we have a problem and work together (people who actually understand guns and gun culture) for real changes. Yes it will take many changes as no one solution is the silver bullets to stop bullets from killing so many in our society. Republicans need to stop deflecting and start solving.
But first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem. How many dead school kids is it going to take?
In 1958, there was a massive fire at Our Lady of the Angels School in Chicago. 92 children and 3 staff died. In an interview afterwards, a fire professional said, “There are no new lessons to be learned from this fire; only old lessons that tragically went unheeded.” Sweeping changes in school fire safety regulations were enacted nationwide. Some 16,500 older school buildings in the United States were brought up to code within one year of the disaster. In the 64 years since, there has never been another mass-casualty fire in a US school. Why?
Every school conducts fire drills.
Every school building is designed from the ground up to be survivable – fire exits with lighted markers, fire-resistant materials, fire doors to restrict the spread, fire alarms to warn occupants, fire extinguishers to fight fires, staff trained to use the equipment to counter the threat.
Every school now conducts lockdown drills. But we do little or nothing in the design phase to make the buildings survivable. We build schools with multiple entry points, often leaving doors unlocked during the school day. We build open floor plans with no place to hide. We build commons areas with massive glass walls. We have windows in the doors, making it easy to break into a room. We have classrooms that cannot be locked by teachers and students inside. We have windows that are not bullet-resistant, and with no blinds. We still have buildings with no surveillance cameras. Politicians fight about having SROs on campus – the only staff trained and equipped to counter the threat. And when the next school shooting happens, the same people say “Somebody should do something.”
“Somebody” is the school board and administration. The people of Guilford County have handed you over TWO BILLION DOLLARS to build and renovate schools. If, after this, our schools still don’t address the issues of student safety, it is the school board and administration who will be to blame.
“There are no new lessons to be learned from this…; only old lessons that tragically went unheeded.”
“There are no new lessons to be learned from this…; only old lessons that tragically went unheeded.”
Funny how you view security as the only solution as if we should still enable mentally unhinged people to still be able to access, own and use advanced firearms. Odd.
Or maybe the School Resource Officer – the cop in the school – should do his job.
They invariably seem to hide outside in the bushes (Marjorie Stoneman) , or call for back-up (Uvalde). God forbid that they actually confront the perpetrator. Cops are useless.
You want protection? BUY A 45.
Then train regurarly (at least weekly) at motion based shooting technics, practice overcoming natural adrenalin rush that makes focus impossible during very high stress events like active shooters, then over come the emotional damage from killing a human being. Then be at the right place at the right time doing the right thing to you actually have a chance at being your dream of a hero.
That is why only 3% of active shooters are stopped by a good guy with a gun.
You really are an execrable creep, aren’t you? You try to portray me as some kind of hero wannabe, because I dare to suggest that police officers stationed in schools ought to do their job and protect the kids.
I have no hero fantasies.
You literally said “God forbid that they actually confront the perpetrator. Cops are useless.
You want protection? BUY A 45.”
I just pointed out that it takes a great deal more than just buy a gun to be the hero in a mass shooter scenario.
Uh, no. I can refute all your points. The problem is not guns, knives, explosives, baseball bats, screwdrivers, etc.
The problem is PEOPLE who commit these acts.
Schools? Armed guards and checkpoints, 24/7. That will stop almost all of gun assaults.
It is…so how do we deal with them better? FL red flag laws seem to be making a difference. If you make a threat to kill with your guns you should loose access to those guns until you have been through some level of mental health counseling.
Adding armor to our schools is NOT the answer. They are not perfect as we learned with the recent shooting in TX and this isn’t only a problem at schools as we just learned with the shooting at the hospital in Tulsa.
I disagree. Politicians and employees in govt buildings have armed guards and checkpoints. Works for them. Why cannot our children have the same protection?
For the zillions of dollars our govt doles out, this would be a minor expense. Members of the armed forces can complete their tour with 3 months doing just this? Unlike other govt dinosaurs, the program can be scrapped if it doesn’t work.
When is it wrong to suggest a solution; rather than whine about what isn’t, doesn’t, or won’t work?
So now we have to arm and fortify our hospitals, grocery stores, etc…? They will always attack soft targets where a mass of people gather. Why not focus on solutions to keep guns out of hands of the unhinged. Like universal background checks for all gun transfers, red flag laws like FL, and the recent Bill republicans voted down to have a dedicated homeland security group monitor and flag potential domestic terrorists?
I don’t support weapon or large magazine banning. But more needs to be done and locking down all of America isn’t the solution.
Lord I wish I was as smart as you, Chris. In the first paragrapf of your remarks you refer to 3% of these murders which were stopped by armed citizen intervention. If a person has a carry permit and enters a school zone, they are in violation of the law and will probably lose their permit at minimum.
We protect our politicians with guns, we protect our courthouses with guns, we protect our banks with guns, we protect our airports with guns, we protect our celebrities with guns, we protect our schools with a sign that reads “gun free zone”. What genius hatched this solution?
Our schools can be MUCH safer if the school board wants to institute such a program and don’t tell me it is all about funds. Few institutions waste more resources than our schools. I can’t wait to see how they fritter away the two billion. They will probably hire several more asst. principals and superintendants.
And don’t blame the NRA, two million situations each year are examples of armed intervention, where the vast majority of which were halted by a firearm being displayed, not fired.
Read something written by someone with whom you disagree on occassion and you might learn something.
Of course I blame the NRA. They have the knowledge to help write reasonable laws to help control gun violence but they refuse and only promote the sale of more guns. Clearly their strategy doesn’t work.
Note that the 3% isn’t just school shootings but all mass shootings including public places where guns are allowed. Truth is that it takes a very skilled and special person to maintain their focus to effectively take out an active shooter. The amount of adrenaline you must experience from the fear of death during an active shooter even is unimaginable. It takes a great deal of training to remain calm, focused enough to fire a handgun at any reasonable distance to make a successful shot under that kind of pressure. Only a few good men have that skill.
I am persuaded that the only way we will ever control gun violence is by law enforcement, elected officials and the citizenry to accept the fact that these murderers are violent criminals and should be treated as such. Law enforcement are losing their numbers for the same reason some concealed carry folks won’t get involved in these assults. If someone has already killed another and you shoot them, you will need a lawyer. At best, it will cost you money and in the case of law enforcement, possibly their job. I am not advocating a return to the wild west, but we have hogtied the police and they are fearful of the likes of our mayor, who already wants to run the police department. Did anyone ask the chief if that had anything to do with his move? Not killing another person is first of all, a moral decision, and failing that, what is left but to harden potential targets and make them much more difficult for such mayhem.
And as to your comment regarding “only a few good men”, at a nearby GCS High School, the top THREE shooters were young ladies. Some gender bias perhaps?? Blessings!!
Two recent school shootings where law enforcement blatantly failed…the one with the resource officer being too fearful to stop the shooter and of course the most recent failure of law enforcement in TX. Beating a dead horse won’t make it get up.
The ‘few good men’ comment is a reference to the military where a massive amount of training is focused on overcoming fear and facing death in order to defeat your enemy. Just because I shot a pronghorn at over 350 yards doesn’t mean I have the proper skills to stop a mass shooting. But good for your for thinking of diversity.
Police in the US are under educated, under trained, under paid, and over estimated. TX Rangers dressed their SWAT team up to look all tough but when it came time to make the call to send them into harms way…leadership chickened out. I will never count on local police to protect me or my family. But you can bet on a loser all you want. I hear Trump may be running again.
You’re right about that – cops are useless.
If you want protection, buy a 45. Right?
So if you believe that sex is outside of marriage between a man and a women is a sin, you are a bigot.
Folks, let’s be real about something Chris has an agenda that obviously anti-gun and in spite of his comments it’s also obvious he leans left.
Almost every reply and argument he makes is blantly full of half-truths, aka concealed lies, and innuendos.
He fishes out only those “facts” that will support his arguments and when challenged will fall back on, well you know what.
What have a lied about?
I personally own several guns and enjoy sport shooting and hunting. I gave a source for my statistics. I even volunteer for NRA sponsor ‘Women on Target’ events although I dropped my membership when the refused to play any role in reform discussions given the growing number of mass shootings.
Like most modern conservatives you attack the person and not the issue. Disappointed in your Alan. Not surprised but disappointed.
CHris–I have a real hard time believing you are a member of the NRA except for paying dues. Why did you never mention the “Eddie Eagle ” program for kids in schools ? Why not mention the other programs the NRA has for shooter safety programs ? Yes they have the ability to write sensible laws, the problem is that what the left wants is not sensible nor will it stop mass shootings or gun crimes.
Name one law they propose to reduce gun deaths and mass shootings specifically other than mire guns on the street? They wouldn’t even support specially licensing for bump stocks!
I am no longer a member of NRA but twice a year I volunteer through my gun club to work the Women On Target program. I own 12 guns. Mostly hunting rifles and shotguns. Only one handgun that my wife likes to shoot.
NRA is awesome for supporting gun sports and safety but more and more of their budget is political and not open to anything but more guns on the street.
Prove me wrong.
Read my statement again. I let my membership lapse after the school shooting in CT. But I am still an active volunteer via my gun club membership for Women on Target. Check the program out. It invites women to experience Pistol, Rifle, Trap, Skeet and Archery twice a year for only a $25 fee. The NRA provide all the ammo. Great program for promoting shooting sports to women.
The thing about Chris is that he’s essentially duplicitous. He claims he was a Republican… but oozes Leftism. He says he abhors personal insults, but calls us all nutters, bigots, and tin foil hat conspiracy theorists. He likes to say that he takes the high road, but when you get him cornered he hurls mud.
He’s the guy in every group who knows everything… but knows nothing.
He just loves to grandstand, bloviating about every topic, waiting eagerly every day to be the first to make a comment about any Rhino article, and then holding his ground with as much hubris as sophistry.
It appears that he lives for this.
Because he is a loser. A sorry loser.
PREACH ON BROTHER!!!
What, can’t follow up your calling me a liar? Typical. Can’t counter a rational arguments. So makes baseless accusations he can’t defend. Like your dear leader Trump. LOL.
Thank you. There really is something wrong with that guy, isn’t there?
Again you fail to counter when challenged with a rational argument.
I am fairly certain your comment count is as high as mine or higher.
I will say again. I got started commenting here as a counter to your misinformation on covid and to be an alternative voice to the ‘all dems are communists’ crap Alan rants about. You want a safe space to only have hard line conservative voices? Go to Trump’s social media platform where he bans any users who make negative comments if him or the platform. You know…since he is a hypocritical guy.
Oh. And Austin, you are a bigot for believing same sex relationships are perverted. That isn’t name calling. That is a fact. The label fits. And people who beleive the self promoting talking heads on YouTube versus scientific consensus are nutters. The label fits. I can defind it any time.
1/ I have never said that all Democrats are Communists.
2/ have been contributing to The Rhino Times for 30 years.
3/ I am the exact opposite of wanting a “safe space”. I have been banned from Facebook 3 times for winning arguments against Leftists. I relish debate.
4/ Homosexuality IS a sexual perversion. If it were normal there would be no human race. Speaking this obvious truth does not constitute bigotry.
5/ The only things I’ve ever watched on You Tube are classic car videos.
Well done! That’s a huge number of falsehoods in just one comment, Chris!
You are even more of a pathetic loser than I and Alan had believed.
Good. So we agree you are a bigot. Label fits.
Thank you Austin.
What..??? Where did you get that? You’re unhinged, mate. Seek help.