A letter from Rhino Times reader Austin Morris
For those of us who could think for ourselves it was always preposterous.
A Chinese street market that had existed for over a century suddenly and spontaneously produced a novel and virulent virus that had never been seen before. This venerable and unremarkable open market was a quarter mile from China’s primary biological research and warfare laboratory, the Wuhan Institute of Virology. And we were expected to believe that this was a coincidence. It didn’t even pass the straight face test.
Those of us who rejected the propaganda of our media who peddled the lie that COVID 19 was a zoonotic disease arising naturally from bats were ridiculed and stigmatized as conspiracy theorists, nutters, and “Far Right”. I know, I was one of them.
But in an interview with New York Times journalist Ross Douthat, the current Director of the NIH Jay Bhattacharya now confirms that the Lab Leak Theory is almost certainly correct. The National Institute of Health boss states that it’s “pretty close to certain” that the pandemic originated with a leak from the Wuhan lab.
So all us right wing nut jobs and conspiracy theorists were right, the media engaged in wholesale deception, and the lily livered, gullible liberals swallowed it hook, line and sinker.
“What’s the difference between a conspiracy theory and reality? Around a couple of years.”
Dare to think for yourself.
– Austin Morris
Thank you Austin. I couldn’t have said it better by the way doesn’t it seem odd that the little rat faced turd Fauci hasn’t been seen or heard from in quite a while
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Rand Paul wants to have him charged for lying to Congress, and I agree.
It’s called retirement. He is 85 years old.
So that means he was 80-81 at the time Covid was released. He should have already been retired. He was a puppet for the administration and was trying to cover his butt as well Obama’s administration
You do know he served under Trump right? And technically he was 79 when covid first popped up I think which is Trump’s current age. You do see the contradiction there yeah?
But you be you.
Contradiction What contradiction
You state Fauci was too old to lead at 80 and yet that is Trump’s age. Is Drowsy Donny too old to lead?
Not shocked given that many in this administration are anti-science propogandists that openly deny science in support of things like anti-vax, anti-climate change, anti-green energy, false statements about food and nutrition, etc….. So clearly not shocked that they are now giving a bigger voice to the unproven lab leak theory….which is certainly viable but not proven and ignores all the evidence that points to the open markets as the more probable source (but also not definitive).
As for Austin claiming critical thinkers would not believe that covid arose from open air markets clearly ignore history as there are numerous similar examples. SARS-CoV outbreak that is very similar example as it arose from live animal markets in Guangdon Province, China. Another similar example is MERS that arose from camel markets and racing circuits in the Middle East. Also, there are the Avian Influenzas from the poultry markets in Southeast Asia.
The truth, which Austin doesn’t point out is that there is no evidence firmly supporting either theory. NIH’s official stance remains that evidence leans toward a natural zoonotic origin although that evidence is not sufficient to be definitive. Time will tells if jay is able to change this mindset within the agency.
Jay supporting the lab leak theory is not new, it’s just now that we have a conspiracy minded administration that ignores science to promote anti-science conspiracy theories his voice has been promoted by a group that has no concern for lying to the American people. Reminder, Trump’s own words…..”smart people don’t like me”.
Best wishes.
The difference between past flu outbreaks and Covid is that Anthony Fauci knew the open air markets were not the cause of Covid from the beginning, as did others. We will never know the truth behind this world changing event. Hopefully one possible outcome is that people around the world will no longer trust governments and will use their own discernment before falling for lies meant to control. One question that I have wondered about but have found no answer is the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill’s involvement in the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Chapel Hill is much closer than Wuhan China.
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And they were in it… deep.
Another conspiracy theory to feed the hate to provide a target for all the awfulness of the pandemic. Here is my conspiracy theory…..yes I am guilty of having my own…. Conservative leaders want you to distrust government, so they feed you lies and propaganda. That way they can convince you to falsely believe that turning government services over to their ‘wealthy friends so they can profit off government contracts with little to no concern if they actually improve services for the better. Because we all know that the only priority for business is profit, which is fine but not ideal for public services.
But go ahead and chase your windmill. I will chase mine. I get it.
As for Chapel Hill, a lot of research centers around the world partnered with Wuhan Labs as it was long recognized as one of the most significant institutions in global virology, particularly regarding the study of emerging infectious diseases and coronaviruses. But once the MAGA crowd targeted it as the cause of their suffering they didn’t care about facts for the complexity of the science involved. They just wanted a bad guy. Facts and evidence be damned. It made them (you) feel better, I get it. Toss in the chaos of watching the science evolve live as data was gathered and evolved and knowledge of virus evolved and the advice changed accordingly was just too much for the MAGA mind to handle. Next thing you know they a taking dewormer, talking about bleach and using UV lights etc….. Was crazy to watch.
Real question though….so what if the origin came from a lab leak. Are you claiming (without proof) that that was intentional and Fauci was behind it or a fault? What basis do you have for that belief?
Best wishes.
For the purposes of this after-the-leak discussion, it does not matter if the leak was intentional or not. What matters is how it was handled worldwide by governments. There had been past flue epidemics, (Hong Kong Flue in 1968) yet people went to work, went to church, shopped, and went on with their daily lives. At the time, our government made pronouncements about washing hands, covering a cough, and other helpful ideas to curb the spread. But no one complained about the name being racist, schools were not shutdown, life went on as normal; to do otherwise would be considered absurd. The number of American deaths attributed to the Hong Flu was around 35,000, and unlike Covid the number of deaths reported was the direct result of the 1968 flu. Covid numbers were inflated and misrepresented for the purposes of control and money. God only knows how the number of death certificates reporting Covid as the cause will be interpreted in the future. The handling of Covid by governments, including lies told, will remain a black spot in history.
What is fascinating to me is the approach Americans took regarding the Hong Kong Flue. It was viewed as part of life, something to be dealt with, and deal with it, they did. Our society has changed since 1968, and not for the better. But that is a discussion for a later date.
Interesting claim. Hong Kong flu was before my time and frankly had never heard of it so had to look up the figures. I don’t think you are making a fair comparison….but first you claim that covid deaths were inflated…
I have heard the claim that covid deaths was inflated but no evidence of this at all except that it had a much higher death rate of older people. The claim that people with heart disease for example, shouldn’t be counted as ‘covid death’ is even though they died while infected with covid is absurd. It is as easy to just acknowledge that if a person didn’t have Covid they would have lived longer than if they hadn’t had covid so YES, covid was the cause of death. You will have to make a stronger case that most conspiracy theorist tend to try to make on this subject.
To add facts to your claim that shows it isn’t an honest comparison: The Hong Kong Flu was considered a ‘mild’ pandemic by experts (often called the ‘wimpy pandemic’. Its death rate was only slightly higher than a severe seasonal flu. In contracts, COVID-19’s early variants were estimated to 3x to 10x more lethal than the 1968 virus depending of which variant was being measured. Kinda makes sense we don’t hear of the Hong Kong Flu pandemic often and why COVID was most commonly compared to the Spanish Flu epidemic.
Best wishes
Bro, Anti-Climate Change is because it’s exaggerated by the popular media; man-made effects are only a small percentage of the actual effects of climate change.
Science strongly disagrees with. If interested I can provide plenty of example of peer reviewed studies or at a minimum well written articles regarding the studies.
Do you have any peer reviewed studies to back up your point of view? It is indeed often stated by non-climate scientists (known collectively as climate deniers). Many have large followings on YouTube. But that doesn’t make the valid sources. It just makes this propogandists of misinformation. Most do it just for the attention. Seem like you have been suckered in by them. Too bad.
Best wishes.
p.s. Let me know if you would like to solid materials to prove your statement inaccurate.
It seems that it’s conspiracy theory 120-0. I prefer to call them spoiler alerts. It may take a while, but they seem to come true. Have you not seen a pattern yet?
One of my more interesting jobs as an officer in the US Army Reserve was an assignment to the US Army Research Institute of Environmental Medicine (USARIEM) at Natick Labs in MA. I don’t know how long before I was there in the ’80s it was known that the Wuhan Labs were doing “gain of function” research and development, but we sure knew of it then. Historically, at the end of WW2, the Chinese Communist government took over the facilities and materials of Japanese Unit 731 that had operated in China doing bioweapon research that would have made Dr. Mengele blush. Look it up. We knew decades ago that the Chicoms were light years ahead of both the US and then Soviet Union in bioweapon research.
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Thanks for that insight, and I believe you. The Chinese are among the more intelligent races and they readily see the advantages of biological weapons over conventional weapons.
Years ago there was talk about the advantages of an enhanced radiation nuclear bomb, or Neutron Bomb. It would kill all the people while leaving infrastructure intact. The Chinese were well ahead of us with their research into biological warfare, which does the same thing without the residual radiation.
More of the racist belief from Austin that different races have different intelligence (guess which race he doesn’t believe is one of the more intelligent races). Amazing that he spews the actual foundation of racism as if it were fact and then gets upset, he is labeled a racist.
Thank you for yet another example of your racist point of view.
Racist = a person who believes that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another.
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Everyone know the Chinese and Japanese are smart. Suck it up, buttercup.
And spare us the smears, asshole.
Just here to point out racism behind your comments as a public service. Happy to help.
But at add facts since you rarely do…..
China has a lower literacy rate than the US although it has recently greatly narrowed. Their rural communities still very much struggle with education. Literacy is particularly challenging in the elderly rural population of China. China has invested heavily in public education as they view literacy a primary pillar of its “national rejuvenation” and military/industrial competitiveness. Their literacy rate was below 60% as recently as the 80s.
Note, none of that has to do with race or genetics. All THAT is related to cultural and governmental policy differences. As is true with all differences in education and overall intelligence indicators between countries. Only racists think it has to do with race and genetics. THAT is proven by actual science, data and peer evaluated studies if you care to read them. Which you made clear you don’t given it doesn’t fit your racist narrative.
Happy to point out the errors in your racist logic. It is my public service.
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Oh My God…. “Professor Chris” believes he’s performing a public service by coming here and setting us all straight.
What jaw dropping smugness.
Austin again ducks any statement of fact that counters his racist view. Not shocked.
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Japan’s Population Average IQ = 106
Somalia’s Population Average IQ = 68
FACT.
Different races DO have different intelligence – even when idiot Pollyanna liberals can’t accept this reality.
PS Does this mean that reality is racist? If so, then racism must be true. Elementary logic.
Again, different cultures have different IQs due to a range of environmental factors such as access to healthy diet, medical care, etc…. But the difference isn’t race or genetics. Any statement of such is just blatant racism by actual definition of racism.
Hint: Japan isn’t a race. Neither is Somalia. Those are countries. Countries that have very different environments with regard to access to healthy diets, education, healthcare, and overall living standards that directly impact the populations IQ and overall mental health and development.
But thank you for sharing your racist ignorance. Happy to correct your racist ignorance any time.
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No, you are just wrong, as you try to shoehorn reality into your beliefs, instead of drawing your beliefs from reality. Liberals all have a reality perception problem because they see the World as they wish it to be, rather than how it is.
Vastly different IQs of different races is clear proof that some races are more intelligent, and some races are less intelligent. This is obvious.
The odds of all the World’s peoples having evolved to EXACTLY the same level of intelligence is infinitesimal. The suggestion is absurd – like you.
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Just so we are clear, you are arguing for the justification of racism. Got it.
There are numerous facts to prove you wrong. I will just provide a few of them at this point in time as I am sure you will continue your racist BS and give me ample opportunities to share all the other set of facts that prove your racist view ignorant and pig headed.
The first fact is the ‘Recent African Origin” of Humans Evolutionary speaking, humas are incredibly young and remarkably similar. Most of human history was spent in Africa, and the migration out of Africa occurred relatively recently (roughly 60k to 100k years ago).
In addition, you have the ‘Genetic Bottleneck’ because humans went through a ‘bottleneck’ period where the population was very small so we have less genetic variation than almost any other primate species. Our genetics are 99.9% identical. The Traits we associate with ‘race’ such as skin color, hair texture, eye shape) are ‘surface traits’. They evolved quickly because they were adaptations to local climates (like UV radiation). However, complex systems like the brain involve thousands of genes that are essentially the same across all human populations.
This is all verified by genetic science and well documented and long accepted. Happy to share many other facts but will keep it limited as it has been said her that long responses make conservatives not want to read. LOL
Thanks again for sharing your racism for all to read so i have an opportunity to use real facts versus your ‘I thunk it so it mus be troo’ approach.
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You have proven nothing with your rambling assertions other than demonstrating your eagerness to smear people who disagree with you.
Your a nasty little fellow, aren’t you?
I actually have. But you be you
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No, your claim that the differences between the races are merely those that are visible is as absurd as claiming that the differences between the sexes are merely those that are visible.
Ridiculous.
I think regional intelligence can be measured by the edifices, real and metaphorical, that are built and left behind by people. Democracy, government, and freedom are examples of metaphorical edifices. Of course, the beautiful buildings found in Western Europe, Greece, the Middle East, China, and Japan are physical edifices. There are others. Using these as examples of intelligence, the examples can be used to determine individual achievements, problem solving ability, motivation to overcome an obstacle, and behavior. All people who exhibited these traits did not remain stagnant but built on past achievements. Chris, you can use these achievements to determine if Austin’s point of view is racist or is rooted in undeniable facts, but facts that you had rather not hear articulated.
Average Intelligence is certainly different across different regions and different regions developed at different paces in early history. Average intelligence continues to be different by region to this day. The lie that Austin is promoting is that this is a result of how genetics evolved differently between races. THIS is the racist lie (hence it is called racism) that is the foundation of all racist views.
The actual reason for differences for how regions developed is due to a range of environmental and geographic issues. The most important was diversity (yup that right…diversity) ….how easy one region had access to trade of goods and knowledge with other evolving civilizations. Europe was famous for its diversity and trade across a wide range of cultures. The other major factor was the environment. Did early cultures have access to large game to raise as domestic food sources versus regions that only had small game that was harder to raise in quantities to feed communities in winters etc…plus diversity of soil for farming etc….
As for differences today, it has more to do with government stability, economic levels etc…that provide for easy accessibility to food, balanced diet, education and time for balance of work life and rest.
Science has long ago proven that there is no statistical difference of IQ by race. Frankly race is NOT a biological characteristic to begin with from a genetic perspective, but I understand that may be too complex for someone like Austin to understand.
Happy to recommend some good sources on this topic that Austin openly refused to read because ‘he thunk it so it mus be too’ is all he needs to support his racism.
Best wishes.
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No, you’re just a pompous ass who peddles his faux erudition here to impress himself. But you’re just spreading BS in purple prose.
I am just sharing facts and all you do you repeat your ignorance of you personal disbelief that humans evolved similar genetics for intelligence around the world because ‘you thunk it so it must be troo’ approach versus actually researching and learning.
You have anything else other than your personal ignorance to share in defense of racism?
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But they’re not facts. Professor Chris thinks that if he asserts something a priori then it must be a “fact”. This issue is not settled and is often termed “nature vs nurture”. Pompous Chris takes the side of nurture, which is fair enough, but his claim to present his side as “the facts” is specious, unfounded, and arrogant.
In brief, the nurture crowd are liberals who cannot emotionally accept that people of different races possess different levels of intelligence (despite all the evidence).
But then, that’s the defining characteristic of liberals. They have a profound reality perception problem.
Chris, I love that you mix in intentional misspellings to make conservatives seem dumb, while your same post is rife with your own unintentional typos. So dumb.
Typos don’t change the fact that Austin and Al have been claiming is classic Racist BS and that they have no response to the clear facts that prove them wrong other than….Na Uh,
LOL
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“Professor Chris” has proven absolutely nothing (other than his inability to accept reality).
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But everyone’s racist. At least that’s what the Left keeps telling us – right?
* Racism endures because it is predicated on reality.
* Racism endures because it is predicated on reality.
* Racism endures because it is predicated on reality.
Maybe this is one time the Left is right.
– Are you claiming that you’re not at all racist, Professor Chris?
You are indeed a racist given how much you refuse to understand genetics and how IQ is linked to many other factors other than genetics as you fight so hard to defend the actual definition of racism as your personal belief.
Most people are not racist these days. Many suffer from bigotry which is a bit different.
Do you need help in understanding the difference in racism versus bigotry? Happy to help.
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Answer the question, Quarrelsome Chris.
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… and Chris refuses to answer the question.
Not shocked, or even surprised. When cornered with logic, he disappears. And he’s afraid to admit that he’s a little bit racist too.
What question are you on about?
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It’s right there in black & white, Einstein.
– “Are you claiming that you’re not at all racist, “Professor Chris?”
Is this difficult for you, or are you just scared to answer?
I am not racist. I have bias against certain people but not due to their race.
To be a racist you have to belive thst certain races are lessor evolved than other races as you Austin are arguing in support of…..
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What a sly linguistic legerdemain ! What a twister of words you are !
I have NEVER claimed that certain races are “lessor” (sic) , only that they are less evolved, which is qualitatively different.
Acknowledging and accepting biological realities is not bigotry, it is common sense and obvious.
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But different races do possess distinct and different qualities, don’t they?
Otherwise where on Earth is this diversity we’re always exhorted to celebrate?
I only acknowledge the differences. That is not bigotry; that is just truth.
Using such differences to discriminate against people is heinous, but your intellect is too obtuse to discern this distinction….. “Professor Chris”.
You continue to confuse differences in culture with differences in race.
Claiming that different races are more or less ‘evolved’ than each other is indeed racists. It is the actual definition of racism.
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And you continue to confuse cause and effect.
So what if it’s racist? It’s the truth.
Brave to admit you are racist. Good for you. First step to recovery is always awareness.
The hard part for you is going to learning…..clearly not your strength.
Best wishes
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And you, “Professor Chris” are in chronic denial.
Facts are stubborn things.
And pleeeze…. spare us the condescension. You’re not as smart as you think you are.
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And you, Professor Chris, continue to confuse the acknowledgment of biological reality with racism.
Austin,
Thank you for pointing those things out. Pay no attention to those that appear to be crying conspiracy theorist. The ignorant tend to intentionally ignore that which challenges their beliefs.
And to those, don’t waste your time posting all those internet links. For every one out there there is another to counter it. Half of them are BS.
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Thanks Patrick. You’re right that anyone on either side can conjure up “studies” to prove that the Moon is made of green cheese, or whatever.
No they can’t. For a study to be accepted it has to be peer reviewed. This is the typical lie conspiracy theorists tell you when data and analysis within an accepted study doesn’t say what they want it say.
Key is that conspiracies are not always wrong. It’s that they are accepted as fact before there is any valid evidence proving it as fact. Of course, people supporting conspiracies also tend to ignore or claim false any data or evidence that doesn’t fit their narrative.
Real critical thinkers actually DO pay attention to claims of conspiracy, so they don’t get sucked into a world such as the anti-vax community that ignores valid scientific studies and chooses to listen to non-scientific explanations that point only to correlation without any valid linkage to causation for example.
Or you could just go full flat earth stupid. It is only a step away from folks like anti-vaxers.
But you be you.
Hold on Chris. First off, Austin is clearly using hyperbole, which you never seem to understand. Secondly, you cannot have it both ways. You specifically pointed to a non-peer reviewed study to try to prove your point about racist hiring practices based on names. I called you out on that and magically you never replied. What a hypocrite!
Here’s the Rhino Article: https://www.rhinotimes.com/news/city-launches-its-newest-effort-to-reduce-violence/
Here is the Forbes article you linked to “siting” your study in the comments section of that Rhino article: https://www.forbes.com/sites/janicegassam/2024/04/17/new-research-reveals-resumes-with-black-names-experience-bias-in-the-hiring-process/
Here is the actual “study” which is just a working paper, not a peer reviewed article: https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w32313/w32313.pdf
And here is their quote on their very first page, which you apparently never actually bothered to read: “NBER working papers are circulated for discussion and comment purposes. They have not been peer-reviewed or been subject to the review by the NBER Board of Directors that accompanies official NBER publications”.
You are hypocritical and a joke, but please continue to post and then run and hide. It’s a pleasure to call you out every time.
LOL are we now claiming Austin doesn’t mean what he says? Like MAGA claims Trump isn’t a moron for claiming to have reduced drug prices by 1500%. LOL. Sorry but both these guys believe their BS.
That aside……Did I claim it was a completed peer review study. Nope.
Do you know what a working paper is? It is a paper that is currently being peer reviewed which can take over a year or two to complete as the feedback loops can be slow at times. I am supportive of any study that the authors are mature enought to submit for peer review and will support it until someone gives a valid reason not to accept the findings. Are you still claiming that racism doesn’t continue to impact minorities in the US today?
How many studies do you want me to send you….here a few more.
Healthcare: https://www.ama-assn.org/public-health/health-equity/reducing-disparities-health-care
Housing Discrimination: https://nlihc.org/resource/large-national-study-finds-widespread-housing-discrimination
Wages: https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/2024-04/Labor_Market_Policies_for_Racial_Equity.pdf
Crime and Justice: https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2022/02/examining-systemic-racism-advancing-racial-equity
If you have a study (or working paper lol) that has statistically valid data showing that racism doesn’t exist, please share it here…..I would be interested to give it a read.
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Thanks, Don.
Yes, I am pretty sure he was not literally arguing for papers espousing the moon’s cheese content.
If you bothered to read and respond to my comment on the name/racism topic in the article where you tried to argue that point, you would have already seen and had a chance to respond to my arguments. Feel free to go find it. Also feel free to actually read the working paper, which you have not done and I have.
I do in fact know what a working paper is, dummy. It is almost any research paper that is not yet peer reviewed or approved….AS THEY STATED IN THEIR OWN PAPER. So, it is literally almost any paper being circulated for discussion or review. They have no merit on their face, which is why they get reviewed. That is all it means. (See their own quote that I included in my comment above. And here it is again for you: “They have not been peer-reviewed or been subject to the review by the NBER Board of Directors…”) And that was an early 2024 paper, and here we are in 2026 and it’s still not approved. It’s a trash paper.
And you appear to be moving the goal posts yet again, instead of just admitting you are wrong. Chris on 2/4/26: “For a study to be accepted it has to be peer reviewed.” Chris on 2/6/26, paraphrasing, a working paper is also fine because I need it to be, so I don’t have to admit I was wrong. (No, you did not say it was peer reviewed, but you tried to use it as a study that we should accept, which is the opposite of what you just said on 2/4.)
Hypocrisy and Idiocy in one.
Working papers absolutely have merit. They are actively being peer reviewed versus say climate deniers writing a paper and NOT submitting for peer review because they know they lack the data, method and analysis to support their anti-science view. The paper I provide has indeed been peer reviewed just not fully completed by all that the journal requested review from when the paper was submitted.
I had hoped you were above the standard conservative bs that twists around itself to try and discredit actual science. You also don’t provide any counter evidence to support your premise that racism doesn’t still impact minorities. Yet another sign you are full of it.
Wil continue waiting for you to provide any analysis that proves racism doesn’t exist and still impact minority communities. But don’t worry I am not holding my breath.
Just because a paper is being submitted for review does not give it any merit whatsoever. Austin’s Green Cheese in the Moon paper could be nonsensical, but he could still submit it for peer review. Doesn’t make it a good paper. Doesn’t mean it has substantive content, nor does the act of being reviewed mean it has such content. It is only after the review is complete and the paper has received general approval that you can start to refer to it as having scientific merit. Go back to school and stop relying on AI, bro.
Instead of trying to prove racism at every turn and being a perpetual victim, how about you just live your life. We’ve had black president for gosh sakes. Most of city government is black, the city manager is black, the county manager is black. Countless successful businesses are run by black men and women. Yeah, there is racism in the world, more so than in America, but we have it here too. But if there were a system in place to keep the black man down, there would not be so many successful black people. I might even be one of them. You just never know. Anyway Dummy, you cannot have it both ways.
A paper submitted for peer review absolutely does give it merit as a credible source pending unless the peer review warrants a retraction.
But fine, you want to discount it fine, I have you several links to studies showing proof of how racism continues to negatively impact minorities communities in the US today.
I also, noticed that YOU have NOT shared any valid studies that show that racism isn’t impacting minority communities. Easy to be a critic….go ahead make your case using valid sources over than your own personal opinion that lacks any data, studies, analysis, peer reviewed sources, etc….
So what evidence do you have that racism isn’t impacting minorities to this day?
Don, I use the label racist carefully as it has some nasty implications. AL and Austin are promoting and defending the very foundation of racism so the label is warranted. Do you also support their false claim that different races have different intelligence levels? That some races are ‘more evolved that others’?
Or are you willing to call them out? Or you ok with the Rhino comment section being used to promote such ignorant ideas?
Simply submitting a paper does not give it any credible weight as a viable source. That is an idiotic point of view. If I submit a paper that demonstrates castrating yourself will add to your lifespan (which is a real study underway right now BTW), you would not run and chop your junk off, even if you really thought that extending your life was worth the sacrifice. No, you would first make sure that the theory was soundly proven through a COMPLETED peer review process. You would not want to chop your junk off only to find out the next day that the paper was rejected after review. To rely on or act on any “study” that has not been thoroughly vetted is idiotic, which is why you initially stated that “for a study to be accepted it has to be peer reviewed”. (And by that, you hopefully meant reviewed and approved, since the act of reviewing would debunk many “studies” that hold no merit.)
As to your other point, the race-baiting money machine both funds and thrives off of research that keeps that mystique alive. Sharpton, BLM, Farrakhan, major networks and media outlets, even the Obamas and Oprah have made money off of keeping racism alive in America. If the myth of keeping the black man down ever died, how many people would be out of business? But here you are watching streams and feeding into the lie. So idiotic.
Secondly, the concept of systemic racism is defined in a way that makes falsification extremely difficult. More importantly, research that starts from a null hypothesis (“no systemic racism”) is rarely funded, encouraged, or publishable in mainstream social science today. Largely because of what I stated above. There is no money in it and would harm the current financially lucrative market that is supported by keeping racism alive in the minds of simpletons.
But here you go if you really want to read them. Just these two are about 400 pages, so enjoy:
The Fallacy of Systemic Racism in the American Criminal Justice System by Paul J. Larkin
The Discrimination Paradox by L. Jussim
Classic conservative BS that any science they don’t support they make up the false claim that it is funded by some mysterious nefarious source. Let me guess, you can’t name the source and prove your assumption for any of the studies I provided? Just more deflection. And yet again you are merely playing the critic as you clearly have not valid study to prove your false point of view that racism doesn’t still impact minorities in the US.
You have no data or science to prove your point of view. There is a wealth of studies that show your point of view is wrong. So all you got is making up some BS about funding sources and people profiting?
Got it.
Are you talking to me Chris? I “sited” 400 pages worth of reading material for you already that you clearly didn’t read. Better get to it. And all you need to do is look up how much money gets made on racism-based topics. It isn’t a theory, it’s a fact. BLM Was 90+ million in 2020 alone. Obama made almost 7 million off of his Dreams of my Father book, which heavily centers on race related topics. Or you can read any of the many articles on the subject of profiteering from racial tensions.
You do not need me to do your research for you. Just pull your head out of the sand and use your google machine, but here are a couple to get you going.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/16/racial-justice-corporations
https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2021/10/how-the-rich-profit-from-racism-from-charter-schools-to-detention-centers
bonus:
https://aristotlefoundation.org/columns/education-not-racism-drives-the-difference-in-earnings-between-races/
I got a million of them, but so do you if you bother to look them up. Now you’re up to like 600 pages of reading, bro.
The fact people profit from programs that fight racism doesn’t prove racism doesn’t exist. Obama’s book for example is a big seller because he was a such a popular president. BLM made a lot of money because they were run by a corrupt leadership that spoiled the movement. People profit from lots of great things as well as evil things. How doesn’t that make the idea’s wrong?
Conservatives use the idea that people make a living doing things like science and racial justice as to claim the work isn’t honest. Is cancer a lie because doctors make a good living fighting cancer?
FYI, Canada isn’t the US just in case you and Trump didn’t know so why not find an actual peer reviewed study about the US where racism is far more prevalent.
Let me guess you will get all bent out of shape about my not responding to the paper you reference but ignore that you didn’t respond to any of the papers I shared other than to make some weak argument that a paper current under peer review isn’t valid at all because the peer review isn’t complete.
But to be fair it was an interesting article. I am critical of the findings as it didn’t compare people in like jobs. It just compared people in total income by race which wouldn’t surprise me in that analysis that income is more directly correlated to education. He didn’t control for people of same education in similar roles did he?
He does make a very good point that even studies that find racial disparity are unable to control for a number of other factors and that racism is the assumed difference. This is a very valid point and why I like the study about minority sounding names not receiving the same interview rate as it focuses on a single step in the process versus the total outcome which is more difficult to isolate cause or control for so many relevant variables.
Try again. And this time find a study about the country in question. I never claimed Canada had an ongoing systematic racial problem. LOL
Racism is less prevalent in the US than most other countries. Travel the world and see. This is especially true in more monochrome countries.
Anyway, there is no changing your mind on any subject bro. You’re hopeless and I feel sorry for the way you see the world. Success whether black, white or whatever is not gauged by outwitting the “oppressors” if there is such a thing. It is attainable by any American who is willing to put the work in. There is no system out there keeping a black guy down. If there were, we would not have so many successful people of color at every level in every venue throughout America. We can’t keep blaming the past for current failures, which mainly lay at the feet of fatherless households and enabling mothers who refuse to admit that their child did anything wrong instead of putting a paddle to their butt. But you be you, dummy and keep blaming whitey. That’ll show ’em.
Many countries do indeed have far worse racism. Not sure the point. I don’t think Canada is one of them.
You can certainly change my mind if you have any data, studies or valid sources that say that racism doesn’t still impact minorities in the US. It is sad you don’t see the world were ‘putting the work in’ doesn’t achieve the same results for everyone. For example, the wealthier the family you come from the easier access to education etc… therefore less work for you to achieve success. And yes, barriers still remain for minorities although far less today than they did years ago. But yes, they still exist.
Maybe you will believe it once the peer review is completed on the paper.
But I doubt it. Best wishes
Greatly appreciate the disagreement and dialog without all the childish name calling. Until next time.
Chris,
“For a study to be accepted it has to be peer reviewed.”
Peer: a person of the same rank or class as another (Mirriam-Webster dictionary)
…a person who is equal to another in age, social status, rank, or profession. They are essentially individuals who share similar backgrounds, experiences, or abilities, often acting as colleagues, associates, or companions. (AI Overview)
Who decides who is their “peer”? (I already know you believe you have none, but I digress) I can go out and find any number of ‘peers’ to substantiate what I spout off about.
I’ve been in a few situations where my ‘peers’ said it couldn’t/wouldn’t happen or work and then proved them wrong.
Note Chris, I said “a few””, not all, which you will attempt to argue accusing me of being unrealistic. But then how can I argue with one who has such a litany of All Encompassing Knowledge as you. (Believe anyway)
Yes. If you won’t submit a paper to be peer reviewed it isn’t a study. It’s just opinion. Working papers ARE peered reviewed. The process just isn’t completed.
Here is a simple article on how peer review works. https://undsci.berkeley.edu/understanding-science-101/how-science-works/scrutinizing-science-peer-review/
Comparing the scientific peer review process to your friends is interesting. For example, if you friends are professional carpenters and they advise that the way you are building your deck won’t work, or isn’t to code, etc… You should listen to them….that is close comparison to peer review.
BUT, if your friends are just some guys who know what a deck typically looks like, take their advice with a grain of salt. Maybe use it to double check your work at most.
In the case of climate science for example, there are a number of people who have become famous / popular critics of climate science even though they themselves are NOT climate scientists. Take their opinion with a grain of salt. They might well be asking good questions of the science, but more times than not, their / challenges questions have answers, but the climate denier is ignoring them because they are pushing an agenda that gets them attention.
At the same time….remember that 9 out of 10 doctors recommend florid toothpaste. There are always outliers. Hence peer review requires a group of specialists to review and endorse for a study to be consider valid science. If a qualified peer says it won’t work, it is only to encourage you to check and defend your work. This happens in scientific peers reviews all the time. It’s why it is the gold standard for validating scientific findings.
The process isn’t perfect as some scientists have bene caught faking data, etc…. It’s also why for something to become considered scientific fact, the study has to be replicated as well as validated by peer review – or tested in real word observations which is often the ideal standard in things like astrophysics.
It is a very high standard. Sad that so many conservatives ignore it…. because some guy on YouTube made a compelling (and incomplete) argument because it gets them attention even though obviously lack any qualifications on the subject.
Happy to discuss more. It is a fun and important topic in today’s world where the internet is full of opinions. Not all of them are valid though popular.
Best wishes.
There are only two things wrong with Chris’s comments.
1. They are too long.
2. They aren’t worth reading.
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Ain’t that the truth, Wayne. What a bore – and as if that isn’t enough he lies so chronically that you can’t believe anything he says.
Only a conservative would find facts boring. I get it. It doesn’t fit your narrative of a quick finger pointing exercise as the truth is always more complicated than the propaganda. It explains a lot. It really does.
Best wishes.
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Nope.
The truth is that the obviously man-made virus leaked from the Wuhan lab. Simple.
The propaganda twisted itself into pretzels with fabrications like bats from 600 miles away, sinister “wet markets”, and pulp fiction fantasies of some new devastating animal disease that hopped to humans. Laughable !
Both theories remain unproven. It is fine to ‘believe’ in one of the theories more than the other but to claim it as fact with either theory having definitive evidence is classic conspiracy theorist move.
The other trick of a propagandist like Al is to create a strawman that is clearly inaccurate or excludes the more nuanced truth. They do this as a mean to deflect from potential validity of a counter point of view in hopes of suckering you in to believing their theory as fact.
The theory is not about bats 600 miles away. Al is skipping (or doesn’t take the time to understand) that these types of cases involve intermediaries that bats typically infect such as pangolins, raccoon dogs, and civets. It is from those animals that the virus is transferred to humans. There are numerous validated examples of this happening with other viruses. Another key fact Al hopes you will ignore as he incorrectly promotes his belief as fact.
Ignore the conspiracy theorist pushing their narrative as fact. Look for people who use words like ‘most likely’, ‘I believe’, or ‘potentially’ they are acknowledging at a minimum that their belief lacks definitive proof and that there are potentially other viable alternatives to their belief. THOSE are the people you should listen and learn from before going down the rabbit hole of conspiracy theorists.
But you be you.
Yet this is what has happened a number of times in the recent past with other viruses. Why do you discount that fact?
Notice how they ignore you Bob. That is the trick with conspiracy theorists. They ignore any counter argument or they claim fake news, or just saying ‘Na Uh’ and repeat their narrow biased and incomplete view.
But keep pushing back with facts. More people need to step up and challenge those that push misinformation.
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Okay, I’ll address the minor issue of the likelihood of animal diseases transferring to humans, which was only one example of the complexity of the peddled propaganda.
Yes, this can happen, but it’s very rare.
Happy now, Bobby & Chrissy? Do you both think you scored a point? You’re both pathetic.
Do you even try to research a topic before posting a comment?
Virus transfer from animals to humans, known as zoonotic spillover, is actually very common and represents over 60% of all known human infectious diseases. Approximately 75% of new or emerging infectious diseases in humans originate from animals.
Try Again but your ‘I thunk it so it mus be troo’ approach is really awful.
A few other facts on the topic I found interesting:
– High Prevalence: More than 6 out of 10 known infectious diseases in people can be spread from animals.
– Emerging Threats: Three out of four new or emerging infectious diseases in people come from animals, such as SARS-CoV-2, Ebola, and avian flu.
– Frequency: While the existence of zoonotic diseases is high, the specific moment a virus jumps from a wild animal to a human is a complex event that requires close interaction, often due to urbanization, habitat loss, or wildlife trade.
– Two-Way Traffic: Contrary to popular belief, a 2024 study found that humans actually pass twice as many viruses to animals (anthroponosis) as animals pass to humans.
– Dead-End Hosts: Frequently, when a virus jumps to a human, the human becomes a “dead-end host,” meaning the virus cannot easily spread to other humans and the infection dies out.
When you present ALL the facts we wouldn’t find it boring. Until then, yes, I do find you boring.
Oh Alan. Am glad you are back posting. Missed you.
Are just making another hollow claim in a weak form of an opinion or do you have other facts to include to the conversation?
What?
From the from Oxford Languages dictionary: “a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.”
What makes an opinion “weak” aside from disagreeing with you? You make no sense with that babbling statement aside from trying to further inflate your already overinflated ego and feeling of intelligence.
But hey, you be you.
Two signs of a weak opinion:
1) It is stated with no facts, data, or valid sources to support or back up the idea being presented. Many times a weak opinion is stated with no supporting justification.
2) The person giving refuses to address any challenges being asked or counter alternatives and just attacks the person questioning the opinion with personal attacks and childish name calling. (This is Austin’s go to strategy)
So, for example, you statement in reply to my comment you say “When you present ALL the facts we wouldn’t find it boring.” You have presented no fact about what facts I have excluded so your opinion is weak and specifically hollow. Which is your typical go to strategy for criticizing democrats.
So yes Alan, an opinion doesn’t require facts to be an opinion, as a weak opinion is still an opinion. Follow? Really, it’s not complicated but good on your for trying.
Best wishes.
LOL, classic sign of willful ignorance. Too much to read. LMAO
Fauci was protecting his turf, and his pocketbook, but one main culprit who seems to have skated judicial scrutiny was UNC’s Ralph Baric.
How was he profiting from the discussion of Lab Leak versus Organically Created virus?
Some real information on the two theories:
– The Case for the Lab leak:
The Lack of Close Relatives: Covid belongs to a group of viruses called Sarbecorviruses. none of the other hundreds of known viruses in the specific group a what is called a furin cleavage site (a feature of a virus that allows it to jump from animals to humans). Some argue it’s highly unlikely the virus developed this unique feature naturally right as it emerged in a city with a major virology lab
The ‘DEFUSE’ Proposal: 2018 grant proposal (called DEFUSE) was uncovered showing that US and Wuhan had planned to insert novel furin cleavage sites into bat coronaviruses to study their pandemic potential. While the grant was officially rejected, la-leak proponents argue the work may have proceeded anyway.
Condon Usage: The genetic “code” used to create the Furin uses a specific sequence that is rare in coronaviruses but common in lab-engineered sequences.
– The Case for Natural Origin:
Common in Otther Coronaviruses: While not found in Sarbecoviruses, furin cleavage sites are very common in other coronavirus families (like MERS and the common cold). This proves that nature “knows” how to create these sites on its own
The “Messy” Sequence: May virologist argue that if a scientist had engineered the site, they would have made it “perfect.” The Furin in Covid is actually quite “clunky” and suboptimal, which is often a hallmark of messy natural evolution rather than precision engineering.
New Discoveries: Recent studies (2023-2025) have identified other bat coronaviruses in the wild that possesss similar, though not identical, cleavage-like features, suggesting that the ‘jump’ to having a full Furin isn’t as biologically impossible as once thoughts.
Summary:
Lab Leak Supporters say “what are the odds that a virus with a unique feature scientists ‘planned’ to insert just happens to appear in that exact city?”
Natural Origin Supporters say “Viruses evolve new features all the time, and we’ve found evidence that the virus was circulating int he market filled with susceptible animals”
Both make a good case. So anyone who tells you they KNOW are just biased and very selective in what the believe to be true versus speculation. Critical thinking sometimes leads you to the answer of “we don’t KNOW”.
Hope this helps.
Great summary of the differing points of view. Thanks for sharing.
Funny how none of the conspiracy theorists want to discuss the idea that both theories have valid points of view, yet both are unproven. There is always an agenda behind conspiracy theorist’s bias. In this case they want to have someone to blame for all they had to go through with covid. So the Chinese and Fauci are their targets regardless of facts.
Sad really.
Maybe the “agenda” is getting at the truth. Funny how high the number percentage of conspiracy theories turn out to be correct. I prefer to call them spoiler alerts.
Which conspiracy theory came out as fact? Flat Earth? Mass voter fraud? Ivermectin cures covid but access was blocked? Moon landing isn’t real? Immigrants eating pets? Lizard people controlling big government? Pedo ring in the basement of a pizza joint that doesn’t have a basement? 9/11 was an inside job? Trump poops his diapers on live TV? Great replacement theory? School shooting false flags? Boston bombing false flag? “The Great Reset” & Diet Control? Kitty Litter boxes in schools for ‘furries’? Jewish space lazers? 5G Towers killing you? Tracking chips in covid vaccine?
Nope, none of those have been proven true. Which theories are you thinking about?
Funny you don’t give an actual percentage. Is that maybe because you know what percentage of conspiracy theories turn out to be true? Just making up a statement because ‘you thunk it so it mus be troo”?
Supporting any conspiracy as fact without proof is still pure folly, especially when you ignore valid evidence that counters your theory. You can state you believe it but understand you can’t prove it as fact. Big difference versus you are seeing posted her about the Wuhan conspiracy theory, which could potentially be true.
Trump appointed a podcast conspiracy theorist to Head NIL. So why the “breaking news” that he claims to be right?
“Updated at 12:29 p.m. on December 17, 2025”
“When Donald Trump nominated Jay Bhattacharya to be the director of the National Institutes of Health, a shake-up seemed inevitable. Typically, the agency—a $48 billion grant-making institution and the world’s largest public funder of biomedical research—has been led by a medical researcher with extensive administrative experience. Bhattacharya was a health economist without specialized training in infectious disease, who’d come to prominence for his heterodox views on COVID policies and who has criticized the NIH for stifling dissent.“
The Atlantic
Nailed it!! Just another unqualified Trump appointment that would rather promote conspiracy theories than follow the scientific method of data, facts and peer review. Seems like personal loyalty to Trump over truth is all that matters to conservatives.
Another reminder that Trump said “Smart people don’t like me.” Just another great example.
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He means that college professors on $75,000 a year despise him as he makes $10 Million on a property deal.
Who’s the genius here?
Where is this mentioned and who are you commenting about? I don’t think Ray was mentioning what you think he was commenting about. Weird.
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The comment is replying to you, not Ray. Do I have to explain to you how the commenting format at The Rhino works, Einstein?
You have been using it for years, and still don’t understand it.
My God, you’re thick.
No, you just weren’t very clear in your comment. Still have no idea what you are try to say with any clarity. Don’t really care anyway. But I will bite:
Is this about Fauci getting a $5 million dollar book deal? You really don’t offer much insight. But I get some conservatives have noted they don’t like to read lots of words.
Want some grammar to advice from me? When you reply to ‘me’ and you open with ‘he’ why would I think you are address me? Proper linkage to the pronoun in that case, you should have used ‘you’.
Also you don’t establish the identity of ‘him; in your comment. In writing, this is called ‘Ambiguous Pronoun Reference’. In your case, this is referred to as The Ghost Reference given that the pronoun refers to a noun that isn’t included in your comment but is only implied in your head when you wrote the comment.
Funny me having give you grammar advise as it is clearly not a strength of mine. You have to be really daft. LMAO. Next I will have to correct your spelling. Then we will KNOW you have lost it. LMAO
Thanks for the chuckle.
Hilarious
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The relative positions of the comments indicate to whom the reply is addressed.
I’m amazed that you’re too stupid to understand this after years of being a tiresome blowhard here.
Don is right – your lack of comprehension is hilarious! You’re a joke.
Shall I type more slowly for you..?
Lol … Austin, nope. I understand you were reply to me but you used the pronoun He so it read as if you referring to the original comment I was committing under.
How about your use of the pronoun that was a ‘Ghost Reference’? Happy to help with more grammar as needed. LMAO
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“He” clearly referred to Donald Trump, whom you referred to in the final sentence of your immediately preceding remark.
You don’t understand rules of grammar. But I’m not surprised because your understanding of English is that of a rather stupid little child. One only has to read your vacuous and error ridden comments to see this.
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“Want some grammar to advice from me?” – Actual verbatim sentence by this Chris guy.
“Want some grammar to advice from me?” No thanks.
Idiot.
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It gets better!
“Funny me having give you grammar advise”. Funny? You’re hilarious! Thanks for the laughs, Mr Chris.
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Yes Esra, “Professor Chris” is as thick as mud, but wraps himself in a magic cloak of “science”, “facts”, and “studies”. He thinks it makes him sound erudite and educated.
He’s trying to assuage his own deep seated insecurities but he’s only displaying his pathetic emotional and intellectual problems.
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Ray, I would quote The Atlantic if I wanted to preserve my credibility. It’s an unashamedly partisan Leftist organ.
Sorry, that should read that I would NOT quote The Atlantic.
What in that statement was inaccurate? All of it is easily verifiable. Oh right….you don’t actually want people to think for themselves, you want them to think just like you otherwise, you call them names.
Got it.
The absence of a response from Austin says a lot…..he will claim he doesn’t think my question worth responding to as a defense for his inability to point to any error of fact in the Atlantic article quote. That is what conservatives do when the facts don’t fit their narrative, they attack the person or the institution presenting the facts.
Not shocked.
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No you’re wrong again.
I’m ignoring you.
Of course.you are…..you hate being proven wrong again and again. Got it.
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Oh yeah? What have you proven – other than that you’re a petty, anal, argumentative little wanker?
Well, technically, YOU have proven you are a racist. I have just pointed out the facts that make that clear. Happy to help.
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I’m not scared of your bogeyman word, buddy. It’s the first resort of intellectually challenged Leftists to resort to the racism trope. It only serves to confirm that they can’t actually debate the issue at hand, and that they prefer to smear people with ad hominem attacks.
You are a good example of the type.
Nope. I use the word racist very carefully but your case you are literally working hard to justify the actual definition of racist by claiming that different races have genetically different level of intelligence in spite of science long ago having debunked such claims.
Would you like more facts that prove your premise wrong and your point of view as nothing but stubborn ignorance. I have several. You have ignored them all of course and just keep repeating your personal inability to understand how humans evolved to have 99.9% of common genetics, specially including intellectual ability.
I can also offer more insight into how your premise is the foundation all of racists points of view and is the actual definition of racism if you like.
Happy to help in your personal growth and development on the subject so you can shake the current accurate label of being a racist.
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Should I be awed to be debating such an intellectual giant that he claims to speak for “science”?
You’re a pitiful blowhard. Your commentaries are simultaneously pretentious, shallow and fallacious.
And you have proven nothing at all with your rambling gibberish.
You want a fact? Here’s a fact :
Japanese Average IQ : 106
Somalis Average IQ : 68
Enough said.
Those are countries, not races. Here, I will cut and paste the well understood explanation for why different regions have differing levels of IQ:
…. it has more to do with government stability, economic levels etc…that provide for easy accessibility to healthcare, food, balanced diet, education and time for balance of work life and rest.
There are a range of studies still ongoing evaluating the impact of infectious disease as well.
Science long ago ruled out genetics for differences in IQ between people in different regions, races, or even gender. Believing that one race is more intelligent or ‘more evolved’ than another race is the actual definition of being a racist so why are you so offended by the label given THAT is what want people to believe?
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A distinction without a difference.
Get over your precious caviling.
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Professor Chris has the causative relationship completely backwards.
Prosperous, cultured, advanced free countries became like that through the efforts of people who were intelligent, industrious, and talented. Chronically poor, corrupt, violent malfunctioning failed states became like that as a result of people who were unintelligent, idle, corrupt, and base.
The contrast between Europe and Africa is an excellent example.
Africa is by far the richest continent on Earth, but is mired in squalor. Europe has no natural wealth but coal, so Europe should be poor and Africa wealthy, but the opposite is true.
The difference is the people.
Classic duck and dodge by a conservative to take very valid points and claim them ‘unnecessary or irrelevant objections’ so he doesn’t have to face them as actual facts that prove his racist views false.
Not shocked.
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While Europeans were debating Socrates, building Cologne Cathedral, listening to Mozart and watching Shakespeare, Africans had no written language, brutally enslaved each other, boiled each other up for dinner, and lived under trees.
You tell me who’s less evolved.
To address the Austin’s racist view on Africa.
First you should note that he ignores country’s successful countries as he paints an entire continent with a single brush of racist views. For example, Kenya is a global leader in mobile banking and Nigeria has one of the fastest growing tech hubs in the world. Also note that prior to the pandemic, 6 of the world’s fastest-growing economies were in Africa. He of course ignores, Lago, Nairobi, and Luanda that are massive, cosmopolitan centers of commerce and culture.
Secondly, for those countries that are currently lacking stability, Austin will of course ignore the impact of colonialism. How for example in the 1800s European powers drew borders that ignored ethnic, linguistic, and cultural boundaries. This forced rival groups together and split unified groups apart, creating ‘nations’ that were designed for resource extraction, not stability. He will also ignore how colonial powers didn’t build infrastructure for the benefit of Africans, they built it to ship, gold, rubber, and minerals out. When they left (mostly in the mid 20th century), they often left behind power vacuums and massive debt.
Lastly you have the Cold War Proxy Conflicts where the US and USSR frequently funded coups and civil wars in African nations to install leaders friendly to their interests.
I have covered the topic of why certain regions of the globe evolved more advanced civilizations faster than others. Austin has of course ignored all though facts as well as the counter his racist view of the world.
Best wishes.
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Unconvincing irrelevant garbage.
Austin again ducks actual facts that don’t support his racist view of the world. Not shocked.
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Hey Professor Chris, why don’t you go live in Nigeria if it’s so wonderful?
With a name like yours – Christian – you wouldn’t last long before being murdered. They do that to the Christians, or haven’t you heard?
And Professor Chris peddles the lie that those societies are equal to ours….
What I enjoy is the fact that 99.9% of the time, us right wingers are right about the theories that we come to. 0.1% of the time, Democrats may come close to the truth but it’s very rare. We are called every ugly name in the book when we dispute something they want us to believe. But in the end, we are justified for our beliefs. Anybody with any common sense, knew that covid did not come from a market or from bats. We knew that fauci and Obama was funding this research in China. The only possible place that virus could have come from was that lab and I believe that fauci and Obama had it released on purpose. They did it to take control of everybody. It worked for about a year and then it started slapping them in the faces when the truth started coming out. They should take fauci and lock that man up for the rest of his life with Obama for making this happen to the citizens of the USA. They jeopardized our life and every life that was killed because of it is on their shoulders. All the people that died, those two are responsible for their deaths and should have to pay for it.
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You’r right, Pat. Your instincts are right on.
Were wrong about mass fraud in 2020 election
Were wrong about immigrants eating people pets in 2024
Will always be wrong about anti-vax conspiracy theories
Will always be wrong about climate change
Easy to ‘believe’ you are right 99.99% of the time if you refuse to ‘believe’ facts, data, and science that don’t support your biased point of view. It’s called willful ignorance. Seems like Pat has a really bad case of it.
Pat showing the classic “I thunk it so it mus be troo” attitude that doesn’t require evidence and openly ignores any evidence that doesn’t support their view. The key phrase of this kind of narrow thinking is “anybody with common sense…” used in the context of a complex scientific problem says all you need to know about this type of thinking.
Sad
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“Professor Chris” seems to believe that him asserting something makes it true!
What a smug prick.
A quick set of Haikus for you”
Truth stands, firm and cold,
Words twist against what is known,
A lie fights the facts
Facts are hard and cold,
You call them “fake” with a grin,
Creative writing!
Numbers don’t have hearts,
Facts don’t care for your feelings
Truth is a cold fish.
Best wishes
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Chris Rice knows it all,
He expounds all the time.
The guy’s on the ball,
And his mind is “just fine”.
Well that’s what he thinks,
If he says so himself.
But his brain is just mush,
And his intellect stinks.
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Best Wishes.
More childish insults from Austin. Yawn.
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At least mine rhymes, is original work, and isn’t lifted from the internet.
Tosser.
Off topic but, does this apply to “a man becoming a woman and a woman becoming a man” as well?
Haikus aren’t supposed to rhyme Austin. I would have thought you knew that.
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Why do you suppose I was unaware of that? You really do have a reading comprehension problem, don’t you?
I wrote haikus and you get all excited because you wrote a limerick that rhymed as if that was ‘better’. Kinda weird really. But you be you.
you can be critical of me for using a classic haiku if you want…. I am certainly no poet. But weird to critical because they don’t rhyme and your limerick does.
But you be you
Al. He’s a true wanker
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So true, Reb !
In fact, as they say in Yorkshire, “He’s right wanker”.
Happy to provide definitive and peer review and accepted studies that prove any of those topics listed above. Bet you can’t do the same for the alternative points of view.
Oh my God……
Typical, no real response but to attack the messenger. Classic move of people who love to spread misinformation.
Chinese citizens operating a mini biological warfare lab in Las Vegas. Reported today.
More misinformation from Al. Not shocked.
While the nature of these labs is highly concerning, current evidence and official investigations suggest they were not “biological weapon labs” in the sense of creating weapons for mass harm. Instead, they appear to have been part of a massive, illegal medical diagnostic fraud scheme.
Can’t wait for the twisting lies AL tries to use to ignore the truth to feed his false narrative so he can fear monger more abkut Chinese labs as if that proves his other lies the the lab leak theory for covid is a prove fact.
Will be fun proving wrong again.
* DEAR READER,
No misinformation, just the truth. Go to Google News and enter “Chinese Bio Lab in Las Vegas”. You’ll see many factual news reports of this discovery.
I don’t deceive. I don’t perpetrate “twisting lies”. I don’t peddle “misinformation”. I don’t try to use others’ comments as an excuse to call them racists, or slander them in any way. And I don’t accuse others of doing any of this – except for Chris, because that’s what he does, all the time.
He’s a odious, unpleasant little man with too much time on his hands. And he lies, just to put other people down.
That is exactly what I did and the news was clear that it was not a suspected bio weapons lab. Share the article you found thst claims it is a bio weapons lab versus the truth that it was a lab used to run a scam.
Chris, one fact about the Chinese bio lab you and Al forgot to mention. The Chinese citizen IS an illegal immigrant that entered the country illegally under the O’ Biden regime. That’s a FACT.
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Yes Iceman, I’ve since learned that he also owns the house in California that was discovered to be a bio lab in 2023. He was operating under a fake name (“David He”) and part of their work was bioengineering mice to be carriers of pathogens.
And to Chris : I never said that the Covid lab leak was a proven fact, but I understand it’s your M.O. to mis-state what others say, so it’s easier for you to attack them (even if it’s fraudulent).
My God, you are a nasty little creep. Dishonest and sly, too.
I don’t understand the claim….there are over 3 million Chinese immigrants in the US. Which one are you talking about? Clearly not that an illegal immigrant brought covid in the US as a result of Biden’s poorly managed immigration policies given that Covid was first found in the US during Trump’s 1st term.
Need to give a little more info Iceman.
Professor Chris, I’m going to break from Covid for a moment and talk about a topic dear to your heart. I know you have said many times that ILLEGALS do not receive any welfare aid from the government. I just finished reading an article in the Washington Post from the Center of Immigration Studies that said 61% of Illegal families receive some form of welfare assistance from the government compared to 31% of American families. I can’t wait for you to pull back your curtain in Oz and give me a list of studies to prove that report wrong Ready set go.
Chris, how many of the 3 million Chinese did you mention in your response to Al’s comment on the bio lab in Las Vegas?
You seem to have a vast amount knowledge of nearly everything from what I have read , so can you tell me how many of the 3 million Chinese immigrants are here illegally? Thanks!
Rebel, I have seen that report. Did you skip the part that said: “….largely driven by benefits received on behalf of U.S.-born children.”
Undocumented people don’t qualify for federal benefits but American children do.
Iceman, do you not know how to use the interest? Most of this data is available online at government websites.
~ 10% of immigrants from China are illegal or about 350k by last estimate.
What is your point? What was your claim about Biden? Again, you do know covid started under Trump right?
It’s not a bat virus, it’s from snake venom. That’s why monoclonal antibodies cure it 100% of the time. The bat thing was a diversion.
The actual science relates to a study regarding the finding of high levels of the enzyme sPLA1-IIA in severe covid patients which has similarities to an active enzyme in rattlesnake venom. NOT that the virus came from snakes. This is a common misconception. It’s Your Own Enzyme: The sPLA2-IIA enzyme is a human protein that everyone naturally carries at low levels. Its normal job is to act like a “natural antibiotic” to help the body fight off bacteria and viruses. In severe COVID-19 cases, the human body mistakenly overproduces this “venom-like” enzyme, causing it to “shred” the patient’s own healthy organs instead of just the virus.
The science still shows that the source of covid was from Bats.
Nope this helps.
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Lol !
Chris is one of the gullible imbeciles who still actually believes that COVID 19 was only a coincidence, erupting from Chinese bats (whose habitat was 600 miles from Wuhan), and that the existence of China’s primary biological research lab a quarter mile away is just another coincidence !
Bats, my arse!
This guy’s a fool. A Leftist fool (if that’s not redundant).
I actually don’t have a firm opinion on which theory is true (lab leak or naturally occurred). Both arguments have very valid points and neither has been proven beyond any doubt. I have been clear about this throughout my comments. I was just pointing to the misunderstanding about snakes. Do facts upset you THAT much? Weird given this comment you are replying to doesn’t even cover the origin of the virus.
Weird.
Chris I didn’t skip anything about ILLEGALS receiving government aid. I just found it amusing that in all of your past comments on the issue you were always adamant about the fact no ILLEGALS received any government aid. It seems as if you were the one to leave out the children’s part. I guess that part didn’t fit your narrative. Because of the children ILLEGALS qualify for almost every form of government aid that US taxpayers pay for. You are a pitiful leftist wanker.
The children are citizens. Not complicated.
Chris having a discussion with you is like peeing into the wind. It’s pointless. I realize the children are born citizens from ILLEGALS. But you Never mentioned this point when you were so adamant, multiple times that ILLEGALS Do Not Receive any government aid. You are nothing but a liberal wanker
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He’s a dishonest and sly debater, Rebel. When he realises he’s about to be proven wrong, he’ll pivot to a different aspect of the issue and deflect and digress.
Don calls it ‘moving the goalposts’, and Professor Chris does it all the time.
He’s absolutely terrified of having to admit that he’s mistaken. Very insecure little wanker.
Why would I bring up funding for citizens in a chat about undocumented immigrants? Weird.
I worked in biochemistry research at UNCG so was fascinated and really worried about Covid. I looked hard for information during 2020. The best first source that was later shown to be the most reliable story was a documentary by Joshua Phillip at the Epoch Times in his Crossroads series in April/May 2020. The basic lab leak, takeover by the PLA of the Wuhan labs, and the background research that led up to the gain of function research on the bat sequences to humanize it was all there. Later more in-depth reporting filled out the arc of research from the initial NIH sponsored work and Defense Dept work and move to Wuhan. I don’t have any doubts of what actually happened.
You also don’t have any definitive proof as the alternative doesn’t either.
What do you think about the The “Messy” Sequence Theory?
Many virologists argue that if a scientist had engineered the site, they would have made it “perfect.” The Furin in Covid is actually quite “clunky” and suboptimal, which is often a hallmark of messy natural evolution rather than precision engineering.
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Thank you for your insight and expertise, Dow. Everyone who knows their onions (as we say in Blighty) agrees that the Lab Leak Theory was obviously the most credible explanation.
Which is the whole point of my letter.
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Your letter does a poor job of making that point as you clearly just ignore the alternative theory and it’s supporting observations.
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– What, like you ignore the case for the Confederacy and its right to self-determination?
I gave you the supreme court case that proves you wrong on that front. But as usual you ignored it…. Willful ignorance is your thing. I get it.
Go ahead and support the idea of destroying American. It fits you well.
Al, Chris has a habit of cherry picking his points to suit his narrative. He is nothing but a pitiful little wanker
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Yeah Rebel, this guy’s an opinionated little wanker who’s never wrong or mistaken about anything – even when he’s been proven wrong right here in black & white.
“Professor Chris” : if you think an ex post facto legal ruling by the victorious side in a war of secession proves anything, you’re breathtakingly stupid. [ The Revolutionary War was illegal too, you know? London did not approve. ]
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In your context, “its” has no apostrophe. “It’s” means “it is”. Please re-read your gibberish.
Can you understand this, or are you really as stupid as your comments suggest?
I am an awful typist, speller and proofreader. But at least I don’t fight in support of the actual definition of racism as my personal belief or for the destruction of the United States as if it’s good idea.
But you be you
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Nah, you hide behind that “Typo Excuse” every time – but it’s bullshit.
The truth is that your chronic and perpetual errors and solecisms just reflect your poor command of the English language.
It is a clear and continual signal of your low intelligence, as is your repeated effort to smear those who dare to confront you as racists.
You’re not only unintelligent, you’re spiteful, venomous, and vitriolic too.
Chris you are right on one point You never brought up government aid for ILLEGALS ( not undocumented immigrants). They crossed the border Illegally, broke the law so therefore they are ILLEGALS. But other people brought up the issue and every time you were adamant that ILLEGALS did not receive government assistance. You never once mentioned children. So it’s not complicated, you chose not to include that fact in your response because it didn’t fit your narrative
We disagree yet again. Paint me shocked.
Where is the disagreement except in your pea brain. You are wrong. Not complicated. ILLEGALS are still ILLEGAL
Lots of flingy-mud on this one.
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And here’s another massive lie The Left tried to sell : Tariffs will cause a big uptick in inflation. Oooh… scary, scary !
The latest inflation numbers show that annual inflation has fallen to 2.4 per cent, the lowest level in several years. I clearly remember arguing with Leftists in these columns who were convinced that tariffs were inflationary, despite reading my lucid explanation of how tariffs are deflationary. So, who was right and who was wrong?
– And this after Biden skyrocketed inflation and created the affordability crisis!
– Leftists cannot recognise and accept reality.
Yet the right can’t acknowledge that Biden administration reduced inflation very effectively without causing a recession. Plus, the right is happy to say the economy moves slowly when talking about Trump’s inability to deliver on his promise to lower prices yet want to ignore Trump’s impact on the inflation that started to spike only 3 months into Biden term so they can solely blame Biden.
The Right cannot recognize and accept reality.
You are right that inflation has not spiked but to be fair, Trump dialed back his tariffs dramatically from when the most dire impacts were promoted. Are you still failing to realize how his tariffs HAVE increased prices? Trump finally figured it out when he realized he had to drop tariffs impacting coffee, steel and aluminum, etc…
Chris you have a big up your butt about tariffs. For too many years other countries have taken advantage of the US trade policies. Tariffs are a necessary evil in world we live in. President Trump did reduce some tariffs AFTER he signed new trade agreements with trading countries. Some things are still in the works, as far as coffee those prices started rising before President Trump took office. I’ve been involved with coffee and metal commodities for over 20 years. Coffee prices started rising over 5 years ago, in large due to drought conditions in producing countries, there is still a severe drought in several coffee producing countries. This had nothing to do with President Trump or tariffs. You can find this information on the internet. I hope this helps but you be you. By the way 2025 finished with a great jobs report and inflation was below 3%
I fully support tariffs as means to counter other country trade policies as long as it is well thought out and targeted to by product or industry. THAT isn’t what Drowsy Donny is doing. He is tossing blanket tariffs out that WE pay for in increased prices. He has finally had to acknowledge this and backed of the worst of the cost spikes such as coffee and steel that are hurting our economy.
Go back and look at your data on coffee and look at the SPIKE in prices after the tariffs against Brazil went into place. The immediate jump was over 10% and was going hiring as cheaper inventories were shrinking before Trump changed his strategy (TACO). Sure, climate issues (look up climate change impacts) have had an impact…..PLUS the tariffs put on by Trump. Pretending Trump’s tariff policy had no impact is you just putting your head in the sand. Good luck with that strategy. Too bad you can’t think for yourself and just suck in the conservative propaganda hose.
But you be you.
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Specific higher prices do not constitute inflation.
Professor as I said before coffee prices started to rise over 5 years ago, well before President Trump started tariffs. Being invested with coffee commodities I got a good return on my investment as prices went up. So now that the tariffs have been reduced tell us why prices haven’t dropped
As I said rebel, they spiked 10% the day after the tariffs kicked in and have continued to SPIKE further until Trump announced an exception. Because you know, he doesn’t believe tariffs cause price increase. LMAO.
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Specific higher prices do not constitute inflation.
You are correct. Trump TACO’d on his highest tariff threats, so we haven’t seen the spike in inflation that many economists predicted. BUT, we have seen the growing problem of affordability that he has made worse with his poorly planned economic policies.
Professor Chris, have you ever thought for a moment theater the Liberals idea of raising wages for entry level jobs to $15-20 an hour may be contributing to the affordability problem in the country today.
If you have any analysis that shows that it was, it be interesting to read. But until then, I assume you are making things up given that we didn’t raise min wage in NC and we have affordability problems as do those states that did raise the minimum wage.
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No, the Biden Administration created the spike in inflation.
And as I predicted, Trump’s tariffs have not lead to inflation.
These are the realities Professor Chris, whether you can accept them or not.
It’s called Economics Professor Chris, people open a business to make money. If I start a business there are definitely things I take into consideration for what it costs current market conditions, product costs, development,materials and of course wages. If wages suddenly go up by 100-150% I as a business owner have little choice but to raise prices for my customers Surely in your little peabrain you can understand how this works. Nobody starting their work career at, just say McDonald’s deserves $15-20 an hour. Please enlighten us with your thoughts
We didn’t raise minimum wage in NC? What are you going on about?
Average starting wage in NC at a McDonald’s is actually over $15 an hour as supply and demand kicked in given people could no longer afford to work for less than $15 an hour. (Greensboro average starting wage is $14.50 and $16 an hour in Charlotte)
Do you even look things up before commenting?
Why do conservatives support wages that require a family to have SNAP benefits when they work over 40 hours a week?
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The government has no business dictating how much an employer offers to pay a potential employee.
And it has no business forcing a potential employee to forego a job for which he is qualified, because it insists the employer pay more than the job’s economic value.
This system is called the free market system.
The alternative options are called variously socialism, authoritarianism, a command economy, or Democratic Party policy.
Sure, the government does. There is a long history of private businesses abusing workers’ rights. Especially in locations where employment opportunities are limited. Not to mention that it is the Federal Government having to cover the low wages with SNAP benefits as well as Medicaid for a large number of fully employed people because of wages that don’t cover cost of living.
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“Thanks Mister McDonald, yes I’s love to work here in the Summer for $5.00 an hour!”
“And I’d love to have you on our team. Welcome aboard!”
BULLYING THIRD PARTY : “No, I am not going to allow that! How dare you two parties come to a mutually beneficial arrangement without my permission.
I am going to forbid this – because I am the all powerful GOVERNMENT!”
— Professor Chris endorses this outrageous and unwarranted overreach, because like all Leftists, government is his God.
The Left represents government.
The Right represents the governed (i.e. the people).
Unfortunately the only way Faucci and the ‘everyone must wear a mask, stay 6 feet apart, keep kids out of school, close restaurants and get 2, 3, 4. 5…boosters’ is for all of these people to be in the Epstein files somewhere. Just a hint of some affiliation with Jeffery may be enough for them to be shunned, cancelled and not to be mentioned in any conversation with anybody. It is a shame none of them will ever spend a single day in jail where they may be welcomed into prison life, and all it has to offer, and where they will probably need a lot more vaccinations against (fill in the blank).
Maybe you should lock up the guy that suggested you use bleach and sunlight to ‘cure’ covid.
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“Dare to think for yourself”. That is the most radical and revolutionary thing I’ve heard in a long time.
Our whole society is founded on the opposite; that we must be told what to think. From the universal indoctrination centers (“Public Schools”) to Corporate ‘ethics’, to the mass media, we are incessantly told what to think, either subtly or overtly.
Even in the most banal minutiae of our everyday lives, we are harried and harassed until we comply.
” Put your seat belt on”.
” Wear a hard hat on your motorcycle”
” Get injected with an unproven chemical cocktail – for ‘society'”.
– But wait, I like to ride with my hair in the wind as I ride, feeling free and joyous. It’s my own life that’s at stake, and I do not endanger others. So it is no business of my public servants to command me and bully me. What kind of servant orders you around?
“Enough of that! How dare you question your Masters! These issues have been decided by your superiors, and you will comply! You belong to us, and you will acquiesce when we insist your body must be injected. You didn’t think your body belonged to you, did you? Ha, ha,ha…. All orders must be obeyed at all times” (that ring a bell?).
Dare to think for yourself. And dare to act in accordance with your own beliefs, not those which are incessantly imposed upon you.
IF….. IF you have the courage to do so.
In Freedom,
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Just so we are clear, schools don’t tell you what to think, they help you learn how to think critically and intellectually. If teachers could indoctrinate your kids, they would indoctrinate them to sit down and pay attention. If Teachers could influence what your kids think, they would make them believe that education was worth paying attention in class and doing your homework. Nothing more. Nothing Less. Given that teachers can’t do either of these things, kids struggle in school. Especially if their parents reinforce the idea that education is bad.
Remember Trump’s Quote: “Smart people don’t like me”. The one of the few things he has ever said that I fully agree.
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Just so you’re clear on this Professor, that is the fundamental problem with government schools :
They’re teaching the kids what to think – not how to think.
Hope this helps.
Show me any example of a kid having their social political views changed from what they have learned from their parents and social circles. Bet you can’t. Because it doesn’t happen. Just more fear mongering from the right.
Schools teach kids to read, write, math, history and science. If they can even do that given all the behavioral problems schools have to put with as parenting has become a lost art in a word where affordability means both parents working 50 to 60 hours a week.
Reminding you again of Trump Quote “Smart people don’t like me.”
They sure don’t.
I can give you two examples : both of my sons were subjected to subtle politicization in their schools – so we pulled them out and home schooled them.
That’s 100% indoctrination, right?
And how about the NEA and NCAE? Their leaders are heavily and incessantly involved in Leftist politics – or are you going to deny that?
You’re pathetic.
Wait….your kids changed their personal beliefs that you taught them because some teacher shared a differing view with them? Wow, your kids must not have much respect for what you teach them to have some stranger change their point of view so dramatically so easily. LOL\
What is most pathetic about the indoctrination lie is that the only thing really happening is that kids hear that adults have different points of view then what they hear at home. So people like Al will pull them away from learning any other point of view on any issues they view a sacred. Then they go online telling everyone to think for themselves….when what they really mean is ‘agree with me’ or I will call you childish names.
Echo chambers are for fools.
Best wishes.
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On a more general note, by now you must have realized that everyone here dislikes and despises you. That’s because we have all seen through your sly sophistry and self-serving pride (not once have you ever admitted to being mistaken).
You use these columns to publicly pose and pontificate, like a pitiful washed up professor whose days now consist of pathetic attempts to win arguments, in an effort to assure himself that he’s still relevant. But you’re not. You’re a petty Prima Donna, a performer who never even had it in the first place, a poseur whose desperate attempts to assuage his own insecurities are clear in every comment.
You bring nothing to these debates but predictable, pedantic, and pedestrian left wing propaganda. An original insight or perspective is beyond your intellect.
Do us a favor.
Take up fishing.
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No, I didn’t say that, did I? I said they were subjected to Leftist influence – not that it changed their minds. Can you see the difference, or is it too difficult for you?
We all know that you put words into other people’s mouths, and this is a good example. That’s because you can’t argue with the obvious and clear fact that government schools and the labor unions of those who work in them, are overwhelmingly and totally Leftist.
Fact.
Here’s another fact : I am encouraging independent thinking (“Dare to think for yourself”). The monolithic and Marxist education system abhors students who dare to think for themselves. It is a regimented structure of orthodoxy – left wing orthodoxy.
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So they heard ideas that you don’t personally agree with and THAT is what you call indoctrination? Weird. I just call it being exposed to life. School is just one of many places kids learn about social issues such as how to be respectful or disrespectful of others. Let me guess you think it is indoctrination to teach long validated scientific ideas such as races being genetically equal? Or that the war of the States was a civil war even though historians have long accepted term for the war as a civil war (for reasons explained you ignored)…..fine. Teach them your point of view and let them use critical thinking for their own decision to believe or disbelieve in science. Good luck to em.
Best wishes.
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You guess wrong. As usual.
Keep your febrile speculation and smears to yourself, you despicable, disingenuous demagogue.
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And FYI, both of my sons are successful and vote Republican. They think for themselves.