For at least 35 years, probably longer, I’ve been hearing that, in order to have any real solution to the southern border problem, there would need to be bi-partisan legislation by Congress.
I have literally heard that over and over again for decades.
However, it turns out that was one big lie.
Perhaps “lie” is the wrong word to use there because I believe many people who’ve been saying that for years wholeheartedly believed it to be true.
And that was also the argument of the Joe Biden administration for four years, during which wave after wave of illegal immigrants poured across the border and into America.
Nobody knows how many millions of illegal immigrants came through Biden’s Swiss cheese border into the country, but a common estimate used by many is 10 million people in four years, give or take. Some say the number is a lot higher.
But then look what happened: Donald Trump got elected president, was inaugurated, and immediately – starting on his very first day in office – implemented a wide range of strategies and put forces to work to shut the border down to illegal immigration. And, within weeks, there was massive improvement; and now – just over 100 days into the new president’s term – the problem, by all accounts, has been almost completely eliminated.
Currently, the flow across the border is only a small trickle of illegal aliens here and there.
So, it turns out that it actually didn’t take a complicated bi-partisan bill at all. It just took one man who was willing to laser focus on the problem, make the necessary commitments to solve it, and be willing to take the political heat over the cries of humanitarian concerns that came with slamming the border shut.
Despite that astonishing and nearly instantaneous success solving a decades’ old problem in a few weeks, no one is talking about that: You don’t see it reported on the news, and, when the subject of conversation among ordinary people turns to Trump and politics, you don’t hear people mention it either.
In fact, in the latest polls, Trump is underwater on immigration – something that in the past has been one of his very strongest issues, and you would think his approval in that area would now be up in the 60s or 70s.
Nor are the media or the people talking about the major companies that, in the last three months, have announced plans to invest hundreds of billions of dollars in new money into America. Nor, by the way, does anyone mention that President Trump secured the release of six American hostages in Venezuela, two Americans in Afghanistan, a Pennsylvania teacher who was being held in Russia, and others as well.
The whole point of Trump recently doing a bunch of interviews at the 100-day mark of his second presidential term was so that he could talk about his accomplishments.
But no one is talking about those things because they’re focused on something else.
Do you know what they are talking about? Everyone in the media, everyone in the public, mostly just want to talk about the wrongful deportation of Kilmar Abrego Garcia and his imprisonment, apparently for life, in a high-security El Salvadoran prison famous for its brutal treatment of inmates. (The guards there say, “The only way anyone leaves here is in a casket.”)
Trump is asked about it in just about every single interview he does. The press corp asks his spokeswoman about it at every single White House briefing. The constant court decisions being perpetuated by the case generate hundreds of headlines. On YouTube and TikTok, viral videos remind millions of social media users of Garcia’s wrongful deportation and imprisonment, and every day in Congress, Democrats constantly berate Republicans and Trump on the floor of the US House and Senate in blistering verbal assaults for not bringing Garcia back.
The case is making headline after headline two months after the fact and the story will not go away.
The Trump administration has admitted that the un-convicted man was wrongfully deported in violation of a court order, and the administration is making no effort to correct the mistake.
Now, largely because of Garcia, Republican senators and congressmen and congresswomen can’t even hold town halls because so many people are outraged over the situation. If you think Americans don’t care about an alleged gang member from El Salvador being deprived of his rights – well, it turns out that they care a whole, whole lot. If you don’t think so, go to this link https://youtu.be/nYNI9x7e85Y?si=7yPy3dbQscHXUlYL70 of US Senator Chuck Grassley and watch the 80-year-old Republican farmers and others in Iowa at Grassley town halls. Go to the 39-minute mark in the video, and see if you don’t think those elderly red state farming community Trump voters don’t care about the mistreatment of Garcia.
When Republican Congressman Mike Lawler tried to hold a town hall in New York recently, and he started it by attempting to lead the Pledge of Allegiance with his hand over his heart to get the meeting started, he was met with a stream of loud boos.
He could not even lead the Pledge of Allegiance without the crowd booing.
He turned and looked at crowd and, disgusted, asked something like, “Come on, you won’t even say the Pledge of Allegiance?”
As Lawler’s town hall progressed, the comments made it obvious why. The crowd was booing at the sight of Lawler pledging allegiance to the flag because why should he be allowed to pay homage to the sacred principles of this country and the US Constitution while he is simultaneously not doing anything to uphold them.
Trump has taken what should have been a two-day, page-five story and turned it into one that’s making headline after headline two months later, and it will be one of the biggest news stories of the year.
Trump recently held an interview with ABC to talk about the accomplishments of his first 100 days as president and the only clip anyone shows from that is the one where Trump gets very angry and stays that way, and, seven times, insists that the letters and number “MS-13” were really tattooed on Garcia’s hand.
The reporter was actually trying to help him out by attempting to move on many times, but Trump, obviously disturbed by the firm traction the Garcia issue is getting, kept insisting angrily that “MS -13” was tattooed on his hand.
Garcia is the story that keeps giving and giving to the Democrats and the Trump haters. And it will keep on giving and giving too.
Do you know why? Because, in this case, they are absolutely correct and Trump is absolutely wrong.
The US Constitution simply does not allow federal agents to just pick up un-convicted people off the street, ship them off to some foreign hellscape prison, admit they made a mistake, and then just say we are going to leave him there forever even though he was never allowed due process under the law.
The funny thing is, rather than just take the two-day hit, Trump has elevated the issue to a point where no one wants to hear anything about his accomplishments – and the problem is, again, now so bad that Republican members of the Senate and House can’t hold a town hall without generating viral videos of things like 72-year-old Jewish women being dragged out of meetings by security while everyone boos and screams “Shame! Shame!” at the Republican politician on stage.
The Garcia problem is also completely sabotaging Trump’s own other initiatives. For instance, in order to save money and make American citizens think twice about committing crimes, Trump is hoping to send American citizens to El Salvadoran high security prisons.
Trump is known for being able to get very hard things done, and no one should ever underestimate his ability to succeed when he puts his head to something – especially since he has the unconditional support of a Republican House and a Republican Senate.
However, his plan to send American citizens faces tremendous legal hurdles. Trump said he is having Pam Bondi look into ways it could be done legally. The process would likely need to involve first stripping people of their citizenship and then sending them to a prison in El Salvador.
Trump told the president of El Salvador that if he, Trump, can successfully find a way to carry out the effort, then El Salvador would need to build five more prisons just like it. CECOT, as the infamous prison is known, holds 40,000. Trump was just speaking off the cuff when he mentioned five more just like it – but, whether it’s two or three more CECOTs that would mean sending hundreds of thousands of American citizens to those prisons.
And maybe that would save a lot of money and drastically reduce the crime rate in America because so many would-be criminals would be deterred. However, here’s the thing. Trump’s plan will be completely dead in the water if he can’t or won’t get Garcia back.
Here’s why.
There is no way in the world that the Supreme Court of the United States is going to let Donald Trump send American citizens to very harsh high-security El Salvadoran slave-labor prisons for life unless there’s some way to remedy mistakes when it becomes known that a mistake has been made.
And if Trump ends up sending hundreds of thousands of Americans to several CECOT prisons in El Salvador – well, trust me, some of those will be mistakes, as was the case with Garcia.
Here’s the thing about holding American citizens in American prisons: If the courts find out that a mistake has been made – that an innocent man has gone to prison for murder, say – then they can, and do, remedy that by letting the person out of prison and, often, paying him or her millions of dollars.
If Trump is to have any hope at all of sending American citizens to mega-prisons in El Salvador, then he is absolutely, positively going to have to demonstrate that he has the ability to get them back once they are there.
Although Garcia is not an American citizen, Trump needs to get Garcia back. Karl Rove said so on Fox News and Joe Rogan said so on his show. In fact, many conservative Republicans believe that it is important to uphold the Constitution.
And, by the way, think about it: If the Fifth Amendment doesn’t matter, then why should the Second Amendment?
Trump needs to get Garcia back, let him have due process in an American court of law, present what the administration says is an absolutely overwhelming mountain of evidence that Garcia is a violent gang member, and then deport him immediately after he is convicted of whatever those horrible crimes are that the White House knows about.
It could all probably be done in a day and a half and then the story would be over and done with, and Trump and other Republicans could go back to talking about the accomplishments, rather than the mistakes, of the new Trump administration.
Trust me, if the evidence is as utterly damning as the administration says it is, then once the American people see all of it presented in court – and they learn all the horrible things Garcia has allegedly done – then Garcia will be a much, much less sympathetic person than, as he is now being portrayed in the media, “an illegally kidnapped, disappeared and imprisoned for life Maryland man who’s a husband and the father of two special needs kids.”
And, purely as a practical matter, think about this: One day there will be a Democratic president in the White House and he or she may also have some people he or she would like to accuse of a crime, arrest, and then immediately fly out of the country in the middle of the night with no due process – and then say, sorry, we can’t get them back.
Trump himself, for instance, has been accused of a vast litany of extremely serious crimes by the Democrats – so maybe the future Democratic-led Justice Department will come get Trump in the middle of the night and fly him to a hellhole prison in some out of the way third-world country, and say, “Oh, sorry folks, we meant to try him before we imprisoned him for life; it was a mistake but we can’t get him back.”
For the love of God, Mr. President, just bring Garcia back, present your evidence, make your case as required by law, and then deport him again. This time, legally.

Is Garcia a US Citizen ?
No, but the Fifth Amendment applies to all “persons,” and he is one of those.
Okay, but isn’t it a given that the US Constitution applies to US Citizens, not every foreigner in the World?
Surely this is a valid distinction.
Garcia is a citizen of El Salvador, entered the US illegally, and has been deported back to his home country.
I see no injustice here.
The 5th Ad says “all persons” get due process, not just citizens.
Obama sent back thousands and thousands back to their country. Did anyone yell due process then? These people broke our laws by coming here illegally. Constitution was written for the citizens of this country, not all countries of the world.
The writers of the fifth amendment very likely couldn’t envision the situation the country is in today.
He got his due process once already, stop this madness already
Also, there are several instances in your text that erroneously imply he is a US Citizen.
He is certainly NOT a US citizen. I will reread it again when I get a moment and make sure I didn’t say that. Al, if you read this comment can you point it out to me so I can correct it. I in no way meant to imply he was a US citizen. Thanks.
Paragraphs 31, 33, 37 (italicised), followed by a seamless segue back to Garcia’s case, and following the preceding exposition of Garcia’s case. I concede that a precise reading of your text does not state Garcia is a US Citizen. But then, I didn’t say that, did I?
I said your article implies that he is a US Citizen, and I think that’s true.
A little clarification would have helped.
Thank you for your input Al, I added the words, “Although Garcia is not an American citizen,” at the transition point so that no one takes it as though I am saying he is a citizen. I hope that clears up any misconception.
Yes Scott, that will remedy what was otherwise somewhat misleading.
Thanks.
No it doesn’t. The Constitution was written for citizens of the U S. Try going to other countries illegally and see what happens to you’
SCOTUS has long disagreed with you on this topic.
Why are you so focused on this illegal immigrant? Garcia entered the US illegally in 2012. He worked in construction while in the US, therefore, so much for E-verify. Two judges concluded that based on confidential information, there was enough evidence to support Garcia is a member of a gang. Therefore, Garcia remained in jail during this time when he decided to seek asylum. Had Garcia sought asylum between 2012 and 2019? If not, one could conclude that after seven (7) years he was claiming asylum merely to stay in the US. His lawyers claimed that he feared persecution by Barrio-18, a gang rival of MS-13. In October 2019, he was granted a “withholding of removal” order, which is different from asylum, but prevented him from deportation to his home country of El Salvador. This order preventing him from deportation to EL SALVADOR. It seems to me that Garcia could be deported to another country, if another country agrees to take him. So, Scott, it appears clear that the violation of the 2019 order was sending him to El Salvador, not deporting him. If Garcia were brought back to the US for a hearing and was able to circumvent deportation to El Salvador, he could still be deported again, just not to El Salvador. Remember, he was not granted asylum.
TERMLIITS, I think we agree. Deport him somewhere else. He sounds like a terrible dangerous person from all I have heard, I just think it is important to do things legally. Also, I think it is keeping the media focused on this issue rather than any good things the administration does.
The leftist media is the problem. What a bunch of hypocrites. How about all that due process for the JANUARY FREAKING 6TH INSURECCTIONISTS? If the Dems/media were not screaming about one miscreant, do you really think it wouldn’t be something else? How about the million or so lawfare suits they are filing? The only response to the haters of this country is “MAGA”.
The Jan 6th crowd had their day in court and lost. What due process were they denied? None. You don’t get to scream lack of due process just because you don’t like to outcome. Typical rightwing hypocrisy.
What about the man who shot Ashley Babbitt dead ? When was her family’s day in court?
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
What is it conservatives when police shot an unarmed citizen? Oh right, just comply and you would be fine.
There was no order given to Ashley Babbitt by her shooter. The shooter showed total disregard for Ashley Babbitt and all the others around her. This shooter should not have been on the Capital police force. Leaving a firearm in a bathroom unattended shows total disregard for the safety of others, and the rules of your employment. In my opinion, she was murdered, which means her killing was intentional. But we will never know since the shooter was not charged. And, Scott, Ashley Babbitt’s murder is no comparison except to state that Chris is a total hypocrite, which he is. A hypocrite with poor reasoning skills.
So you break into Congress with great violence via a riot. SS agend is bound to protect congress members with his life, you break into the floor of congress where congress members are present and fearing for their lives and you act shocked when the person gets shot. Got it.
Surprised you didn’t support BLM given they defended and rioted in the name of innocent people shot by police.
Just more hypocrisy by the right. Oh right, they were the wrong color. Got it.
He was.is not a SS agent, He is.was Capitol Police, a different branch.
Thank you for that correction, Alan.
I did find several articles indicating that she was given multiple warnings to stop as she was climbing through a broken window of a barricaded door. She should have listened.
Those DC courts were effectively Kangaroo courts. Not one person in the DC Gulag got a fair trial. 99% were non-violent political protestors. Grandmothers and veterans with zero previous run-ins with the law. Patriotic people protesting a stolen election. At no gain to themselves.
I’m all for the people who initiated violence that day being punished. The thing is, they were all Feds.
Funny how conservatives claim they are Kangaroo courts just because they don’t like the outcome. Not to mention the Jan 6th dummies filmed themselves breaking the law. Yet no one ever presented any valid evidence of a stolen election. The right doesn’t believe in justice, they just believe whatever their cult leader tells them to believe. Just a bunch of sheep being fleeced by Trump. Pathetic.
If you believe rioters should be allowed to do whatever they want because they BELIEVE they are right, why didn’t you support the BLM rioters? Oh right. They were the wrong color. Got it.
Typical conservative hypocrisy.
Those January 6 defendents were American citizens
American citizens who broke the law were given due process, found guilty and sentence accordingly.
Under what conditions would you say that it is Constitutional for the US to ship anyone directly to an overseas prison for life?
I don’t think that would ever be constitutional, however, the president and many in his administration are seeing if there is a way to do it. I never thought running for a third term would be constitutional either, however the president says he is looking into ways to do it – ie, be Vance’s vice presidential running mate and then have Vance step down first day. I did get a little scared when I started reading about how there are ways that people can be stripped of their citizenship under certain conditions.
Trump has no intention of running for another term. This talk is to get the Democrats’ panties in a wad. If something so bizarre would happen, I would not vote for Trump running as president or vice president. We have a two-term limit now and thank God we do. We need term limits for ALL politicians, especially congress.
Termlimits, it just hit me that, given your screen name, your position on this matter is not surprising. LOL.
an extradition treaty exists or will be created ?
Wasn’t the constitution written in America by American citizens and for American citizens. Garcia broke the law when he came here ILLEGALLY shouldn’t be debated he was an ILLEGAL not a citizen doesn’t deserve the rights of this country Leave him where he is in his home country Go to Russia, China or North Korea and enter ILLEGALLY See what the consequences are.
He was going the courts at the time he was kidnapped and sent to a foreign prison. This isn’t about Garcia, it is about a president who has no respect for the due process of law. Skipping the courts and sending someone to a foreign prison without due process of is illegal per the US constitution. Even Trump and team admit they messed up. They just don’t care. I suggest we send them to a foreign prison and see how they like the absence of due process of law. I mean, THEY broke the law and following their (and your logic) it’s fine because THEY broke the law.
But let me guess. This only makes sense to you because Garcia is South American and has brown skin? Why not do the same to the guy with orange skin?
I’m thinking we do it to a little wanker liberal boy named Chris
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He sure is a “Barclays Banker” … i.e. wanker.
Classic BS response from a conservative. Yawn…
Chris, you need to brush up on your geography; El Salvador is not in South America. Deporting Garcia was not a mistake. Deporting him to El Salvador was the mistake. I do not understand why able-bodied men leave their country to seek “asylum.” Stay and fight for your country, fight to make a change that will benefit those you left behind, including your family. I question the motive and the character of these men, including Garcia. Garcia left his family in El Salvador to deal with whatever excuses he used to enter the US illegally. There is a word for men such as Garcia, coward.
Weird. Even the Trumpnadministration admits it was an error. The supreme court says it was illegal (ie a kistake). What does it take to understand it was a mistake and a violation of the law?
So much for conservstives belief in justice.
No one broke any law, Chris. A judge does not make law. It was a judge’s “withholding of removal’ order that was violated in that Garcia was not to be returned to El Salvador. Very different from a law. It seems appropriate to find another country willing to accept Garcia. If one can be found, send him immediately to that country. No need for him to be returned to the US.
I think the justices on the supreme court know more about the law than you do.
Conservatives lack of belief in real experts and most recently our justifce system is just stunning. It is how Trump is destroying America. First cast doubt on false idea of mass election fraud so they destroy the right to vote. Then destroy faith in the justice system so they can bypass the law. THAT is how you destroy America. It certainly lying isn’t how it you make it great.
I state to you again; JUDGES DO NOT MAKE LAW. That’s up to the legislative branch. Congress has failed to do their job for years by allowing judges to make pronouncements that can have the effect of a law without being a law written by Congress. Politicians among other things are lazy, lazy, lazy. They like to play it safe to hold onto their offices. We are in desperate need of term limits for Congress.
‘rights’ to costly TO TAXPAYER trials of our uninvited unguests ? thousands of trials 24/7/365 forever ? have any of them ever been ‘drafted’ & forced into military or jail or ‘discitizened’ ? do they get all required immunizations that keep them & OTHERS safe from epidemic ? litigation is the costliest mess cleanup short of warfare ! wish we could just ‘take em to the county ( state etc) line & dump them. austin morris, how does britain deal with ‘travellers’ ?
How long…how long will we, the American People, continue to allow the blatant disregard of our laws, our liberty, our peace, our way of life by people who appear to only be concerned about an illegal alien with a highly questionable record of encounters with the law.
First, yes or no…did he enter this country legally? If no, deport him.
Second, yes or no…is he a member of MS-13? If yes, deport him.
As for his family, they, as American citizens, can stay here or move to be with him. It’s their choice.
You also state in your writing “…For instance, in order to save money and make American citizens think twice about committing crimes, Trump is hoping to send American citizens to El Salvadoran high security prisons.” Scott, please tell me you honestly don’t believe he has the power or even the right to do something so blatantly illegal. If you do, I will have to look closely at my opinion of you and your paper. You and I both know the American people; both R and D would not stand for it. I believe you would see a true violent uprising.
The scenarios you put forth in regard to American citizens being sent to foreign prisons smacks of things written in the Declaration of Independence. And we all know what that led to and could again.
I personally believe ALL illegal aliens need to be rounded up, placed in holding facilities and processed IAW the laws that relate to that situation. There is a legal process outside of the regular courts, which if used would take DECADES to complete if used, to determine the final outcome for these people. They have already broken the law entering the country the way they did, so why do we give them more time ON THE AMERICAN TAXPAYERS DIME to play our legal system?
I am of the opinion if you are here illegally your ‘rights’ are limited in nature unlike a legal American citizen. Just because you are here doesn’t mean you have all the rights of American citizens.
Patrick, you and I agree that it would be highly illegal and immoral to send American citizens to prisons in foreign countries, however it is also illegal to do what they did to Garcia – and no one in the administration seems to want to correct that despite a unanimous Supreme Court order to do so. So when the president says he intends to send American citizens to foreign prisons, I take him seriously. But you and I agree it would not be legal – at least without a constitutional amendment under current law. My point in talking about that is that Trump is even undermining his own hopes and plans by keeping Garcia illegally in El Salvador. Also, I am not sure you would see a violent uprising if they started sending citizens to foreign prisons because it could be that, as has happened in other countries in the past, there would be an atmosphere of so much fear that no one would speak up because they would be afraid that, if they did speak out, they would be sent away as well.
Scott,
I have to respectfully disagree with you. I think you underestimate loyal, law abiding American citizens and what they are capable of doing. Would large numbers of citizens rise up? Not initially I believe. Would LEO violate their oaths? I believe some would and some wouldn’t.
Again, would President Trump attempt to send American citizens to foreign prisons? I can’t say but I would like see anything that would give him the authority and power to do so LEGALLY.
There is WAY too much rhetoric being thrown around, to include this circus currently taking place in NJ at the time of this writing. I know at least one person who will claim I’m Chicken Little yelling the sky is falling, but what I’m am is a realist who believes there are people out there that are prepared to take advantage of this chaos.
After all, who thought civilian airliners would be hijacked in a coordinated attack and used as flying bombs to kill, injury and maim thousands of Americans in our own country. I’m sure at least that one person I referred to earlier would have laughed and poked fun at anyone who would have suggested it up to when the first plane hit the first tower.
On your comment about “… there would be an atmosphere of so much fear that no one would speak up because they would be afraid that, if they did speak out, they would be sent away as well.” I will say two things…Lexington/Concord and A-Teams
Never say never, and don’t underestimate power of an American country boy.
I hope you are right.
Scott you are very misinformed. Mr. Garcia is a citizen of El Salvador. He has had due process and was deported according to the courts (2) decisions.
You are clearly misinformed.. Even Trump administration admitted to the error and SCOTUS order him returned.
Under current LAW he was granted protected class as he was able to prove in COURT that he was at risk if deported home. That is the current LAW. If you don’t like it, change the LAW.
It was NOT proven in a COURT of LAW that he was a member of MS-13. He was only PROVEN that there was reasonable suspicion that the MIGHT be a member of a gang. He had further hearings in a COURT of LAW prior to be deported to a the very country the COURTS said he was to be protected from being sent to by a COURT ORDER.
Only a conservative could argue for more respect for the due process of law while at the same time begging for people to overlook the rule of law just because they don’t personally like the law. The Trump administration admits the mistake. SCOTUS agrees it was a violation of the constitution’s right to due process yet Mr. Henry thinks his view is more correct than both of them.
Just a reminder that a past real leader actually worked with congress to update the LAW to speed up the courts to close the asylum loophole but conservatives used misinformation about the bill to cancel it at the request of Trump so Trump could have his boogeyman in order to regain power.
More classic hypocrisy from the right. Justice for me but not for those they don’t like.
Had he not broken the law and entered the US ILLEGALLY we would not be having this discussion, would we Chris. And by the way Ashley Babbit was unarmed, she was murdered in cold blood any way you want to spin it
Oh so you supported the BLM movement protesting unarmed black men and women shot by police?
Or are you just another conservative hypocrite?
Chris, White people are killed as often if not more so than black people across the nation by police Refusing to obey police officers commands is by and large the reason most are killed. And don’t forget when the blm protesters were rioting and burning cities they were said to be “peaceful protesters “ very few were actually arrested or ever went to court even though the damage they caused was in the millions. I was in Ferguson Missouri recently most of the destroyed area has never been rebuilt, most businesses never rebuilt or left entirely so please explain the mindset of destroying your city or community.
Yes Patrick Henry it would take 200 years to give all of Biden’s illegals due process. Garcia entered this country and can be deported. Full stop !
He was illegal and he was sent home.End of story.
Exactly
Trump is at least right that the issue is now moot, since Garcia is outside of US jurisdiction, in an independent foreign nation state (which is is home country).
Garcia is a citizen of El Salvador and he is in El Salvador. Why would anyone other than a fool think we should bring him to the USA? He’s where he belongs. If his wife wants to take more beatings from him, she can go to him.
So Trump should spend taxpayer money to bring back an illegal immigrant just so he can deport him again in the name of due process, to stop people from disrupting republican town halls so the media will finally report on the actual good things Trump is accomplishing. Sounds about right.
I thought I was reading this Rhino published in Greensboro, NC. It sure seems like Boston to me.
Chris, I’m screaming. Tag, you’re it.
He is an El Salvador citizen that had entered the US illegally. That is a crime that triggers deportation. He was deported to his country of origin. The Administration doesn’t have any authority to imprison someone in El Salvador. The government of El Salvador decided what to do with their citizen when he arrived back in his home country, President Trump did not. The government of El Salvador is the only government that can decide his fate.
The guy didn’t invoke due process when he came to the USA so why should he expect due process when he gets kicked out? This is on par with squatter’s rights when people take over an unoccupied house and claim it as their own.
I think we need to re-interpret the 5th amendment of “all persons” as meaning “all persons that are citizens or legal residents” and not the squatters that come here illegally.
OPINION:
For The Love Of God……why are you so invested in an MS13 Gangbanger, wife beater and someone also most likely involved in human trafficking?
For The Love Of God….We have a similar problem here, and it might help to ignore “the law” to get a handle on it. Homeless criminals, drug addicts, and mental patients roam the streets, alleys, and wooded lots all over the city. Some are harmless, but quite a few are dangerous to themselves, each other, and everyone else. Why is this happening? How about some in-depth reporting on how “the law” and “due process” make it almost impossible to do anything to stop it? Why is it common for some business owners to have to clean up needles, condoms, and human feces from their property daily…where is their “due process” and protections under “the law”?
For The Love Of God…..Why is it that when I pull up next to a street sign near my home that says “no standing on median at any time,” there is a beggar, sitting on a milk crate, asleep, leaning against that very sign?
For The Love Of God…Why is it that we had a well-known local contractor thrown off a county project, by county commissioners, for “racist issues,” yet that contractor is building other county and city projects all over the county…and no one has ever explained what happened….how does that work?
For The Love Of God….Why is it that progressive cities all over the country are afflicted with these same issues, yet Greensboro and Guilford County do not learn from their mistakes….and in fact seem to be running headlong to repeat them?
For The Love Of God…..CBS, NBC, CNN, Fox, and fishwraps all over the country are spending hours a day arguing about Abrego Garcia. How about concentrating on the local issues, you know, where your readers live. I miss the days when The Rhino was breaking news, dissecting local issues, shining a light into the dark corners of local government and organizations, instead of following along behind the cable news channels tooting a kazoo.
Thanks for your feedback. The Rhino Times has always touched on national politics from time to time.
This isn’t about Garcia. This is about the importance of our Executive branch following the rule of law like the rest of us are required to do.
You mean like when your Lord and Master Biden was “following the rule of law” when he told Ukraine they had an hour to fire an official the Administration didn’t like or he would leave with the millions of dollars in aide he was supposed to be delivering?
Alan LMAO over this one. Can’t wait to see Chris’s response
The most telling comment of Scott’s post:
“ In fact, MANY CONSERVATIVE Republicans believe that it is important to uphold the Constitution.”
Shouldn’t that be a given of ALL conservatives, except for the fact that Trump “doesn’t know” if he will clearly violate the oath administered to him to support and defend the Constitution?
You make a very good point. It should be the case that all conservatives believe it is important to uphold the Constitution and it saddens me that these days some do not.
You don’t make any sense, go get him yourself and take him in loudmouth
It’s disappointing to see Democrats living in “Never Land” consistently prioritizing the needs of illegal immigrants who have committed crimes over the safety and security of American citizens.
Since Trump’s inauguration in January, Democrats have spent every moment fighting the same battles they lost in November. Mainstream media is scraping the bottom of the barrel in their attempts to portray the Trump administration’s enforcement of immigration as racist and immoral. Online liberal news is inundated with sob stories about illegal aliens facing deportation because they broke American laws.
It’s concerning to see Democrats seemingly adopting a lenient stance towards criminals, with some even providing education on evading law enforcement. Figures like AOC exemplify this disregard for law and order as she tries to pull these illegals out of the quicksand.
The process due for illegals is deportation.
Democrats have decided that they are the party of illegal immigrants and MS-13 ganbangers, essentially saying we need more crime in the country, and turning criminals into victims.
Garcia is a wife-beater, an MS-13 gang member, and a human trafficker. The most significant fact is that he’s in the U.S. illegally. Illegal still means unlawful, unless the Pronoun Party can get Webster’s to change the definition, then illegals are criminals and should, according to the law, be removed.
The due process available to an illegal immigrant is far less than the due process for U.S. citizens. It should be quick, but activist judges could drag it on for years. The federal judicial system is corrupt, and some of its worst players are trying to overtake executive authority. It is time to waive the rule of law over national security when facing a coup or corruption.
Maybe he was deported by accident, but a federal immigration court in Baltimore determined that Garcia was not eligible for release when he was first in custody because he had “failed to meet his burden of demonstrating that his release from custody would not pose a danger to others, as the evidence shows that he is a verified member of MS-13.”
Trump has indicated he could support efforts to bring Garcia back, but I hope he doesn’t.
Mr. Yost,
Your May 8, 2025, op-ed urges President Trump to bring back Kilmar Abrego Garcia, wrongfully deported to an El Salvadoran prison. Despite your compelling plea, Trump won’t budge—it’s his standard playbook, and you should see this by now.
Trump acknowledges he could return Garcia but refuses, citing his legal team’s opposition (https://abcnews.go.com/US/kilmar-abrego-garcias-deportation-battle-continues-differing-pictures/story?id=120910642).
This aligns with his hardline immigration stance, prioritizing a tough image over justice (https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/17/white-house-defense-abrego-garcia-deportation-00298118).
Despite public outrage and Supreme Court orders to facilitate Garcia’s return (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kilmar-abrego-garcia-deported-el-salvador-trump-immigration-what-know-rcna201708), Trump’s defiance is deliberate, not a misstep.
The “cruelty is the point” thesis fits perfectly. Trump’s harsh actions, like leaving Garcia in a brutal prison, aim to deter migration and energize his base, a tactic seen in past policies like family separations (https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/the-cruelty-is-the-point/572104).
Labeling Garcia a dangerous MS-13 member, despite no charges, fuels fear and justifies the deportation, even as evidence suggests he’s a Maryland father and worker (https://abcnews.go.com/US/kilmar-abrego-garcias-deportation-battle-continues-differing-pictures/story?id=120910642).
This mirrors earlier moves, like caging children to signal toughness, which analysts note was meant to intimidate and rally supporters (https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/for-trump-cruelty-is-the-point/).
By ignoring court orders and public backlash, Trump doubles down, using Garcia’s suffering to project strength. This calculated cruelty is why he won’t reverse course, and your hope for change misses his predictable pattern.
All your sources are outlets that try to undermine Trump and his administration at every opportunity; ABC, NBC, The Nation, The Atlantic, really, these are your sources? There is one part of the deportation that is a puzzle to me. The order was not to deport Garcia to El Salvador, but he was. Imprisoning is a decision made by a jurisdiction under the laws of that jurisdiction. The Trump administration has no such jurisdiction in El Salvador. Had Garcia been previously convicted of a crime in El Salvador? Did Garcia fear imprisonment rather than fearing the Barrio-18 because he was a known MS-13 gang member by El Salvadorian police? If so, then he lied to a judge at his hearing in 2019. Did El Salvadorian police know that Garcia was a member of MS-13 before he entered the US illegally and that is why he was imprisoned after his return to El Salvador? Did Garcia have ongoing contact with MS-13 in El Salvador while he was in the US? Did Garcia send money to El Salvador while in the US? If so, to whom? There is more to this story than has yet been told.
A Call to Right the Wrong
Kilmar, trapped in El Salvador’s grip,
A prison’s chains, a court’s decree let slip.
A father, yes, a worker too,
But now a symbol of what we must undo.
Mr. Trump, your hand can turn this tide,
Yet you stand firm, with lawyers at your side.
The border’s shut, your will is strong,
But Kilmar’s fate—sir, it’s just wrong.
No trial, no charge, just swept away,
The Constitution scorned in broad daylight.
You know the error, you’ve said it’s true,
Why let this stain define what you do?
The cruelty’s not the goal, I pray,
Yet “gang” they cry, with no proof to say.
A Maryland man, not MS-13’s kin,
This lie festers, it’s a mortal sin.
America’s soul demands we mend
This broken path, this unjust end.
Your power’s vast, your word can free,
Bring Kilmar back, let justice be.
The headlines scream, the people roar,
From Senate halls to Iowa’s core.
We beg you, sir, correct this blight,
For law, for right, restore the light.
You must spend hours composing your poetry, and while rhyming can be a challenge, it is much easier since the Internet. But I do question your choice of words to rhyme, such as “blight.” The likes of Garcia may be a blight, but his deportation is not a blight.
What you got?
T L what’s he got better to do with his toilet time.
The Trump admin admits it was a mistake but rightfully claims they have no legal right to compel El Salvador to return him. I suspect for the right amount of money, we could get him back. I am all for due process and hope we get him back to have a trial. But I admit, after reading about him, I’m not losing any sleep over this one. And spare me the lecture.
I am noticing a trend of late that RT’s is slowly turning in to GDN. Hitting unsubscribe button
Well, Bye.
This question is a serious one. And I am being serious about asking it.
The big argument I’m hearing here is does the Constitution apply to EVERYONE physically in this country regardless if they violated the law in order to enter or not, or does illegal entry negate them from being covered by it.
After all, amendments were made to allow for people brought here involuntarily as slaves then freed to give them equal rights which could mean someone who voluntarily entered this country illegally is not entitled to the same consideration because they knowingly broke the law and should be returned immediately.
Someone with a deeper education and knowledge of the Constitution should be asked.
Just a thought.
think of the constitution as the transcript of an important conversation to create a better society that amends often and as easily as an agreement between individuals, groups . . . to fit a current shituation. who wants all amendments removed ? i could easily agree to see removals, additions, changes. my opposition is ‘scripture’ thumping.
Precisely! Good, focused, clear thinking, Alan.
* Alan, the original text of the article obfuscated whether Garcia is a US Citizen, which was unfortunate. I think that it’s certainly relevant, regardless of the technical legalities of the situation.
Let’s give Scott the benefit of the doubt, and say it was accidental…
Agreed.
Unlike some folks here we can intelligently agree to disagree in a polite and adult manner.
Yes, without insults, rudeness, smears and lies. There’s only one odious a-hole in these columns, and we all know his name.
The Fact is, Garcia is not afforded the same rights as U.S. citizens.
Immigration Judge’s 2019 Order Found Kilmar Abrego Garcia ‘Subject to Removal’ by Deportation
Opinion: For The Love Of God, Can We Just Bring JOHN HAMMER Back Already!?
I wish he would come back too but I think he is enjoying retirement. For those who would like to read Hammer’s thoughts, he does write now on Substack and his thoughts on politics etc.can be found there.
Simplest solution was old be for SCOTUS to step down n and rule the 5th Amendment applies to US citizens and also to aliens that have legally entered the US. Illegals would then have no due process required. It is an idea, but requires an impossible condition, that SCOTUS has common sense.
WRONG. Due process needs to apply to anyone on US soil regardless of thier legal status. If we start saying “these people don’t deserve rights because they aren’t American citizens,” then that’s a dangerous path to human rights violations like the ones we see now among other people being detained (7 people have died so far this year in custody, so much for sending them back and letting them come over legally). If the Trump administration wants to arrest illegal immigrants, try them in court and deport them if they are found guilty then I have no problem. But if we really are a country of laws as so many Republicans like to say, then Due Process should matter.
Paul go try your flawed logic in any communist controlled country. Please write and let us know how it works out.
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It sounds like there are a number of bleeding hearts. I have only two comments on the editorial. First, does anyone really believe that Trump would want to or attempt to deport US citizens? Scott you are making too much of it adding to the biased media’s hype. Even the biased media has stopped beating that drum. Trump has enough to do ridding the country of Biden’s illegals. Second, Garcia got what he deserves. He was declared deportable by immigration judges. Maybe he should have left on his own to someplace other than El Salvador. His case should prompt other illegals to take the government’s offer of payment to self deport rather than risk similar treatment.
Don’t anyone bother to comment on my reply because I refuse to be goaded into participating in this useless discussion.
The LEFT is going to flog this issue forever.