On Monday, April 7, President Donald Trump and his administration petitioned the US Supreme Court to overturn a lower court order that demands the US government bring back a man who was mistakenly sent to a Salvadorian prison.
A judge gave the Trump administration until midnight on April 7 to return Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia, a native of El Salvador, to the US.
Trump and members of his administration have stated repeatedly that they believe Garcia is a violent gang member and, they claim, that gives them the right to put him on a military plane and imprison him – without any due process – in a hellscape prison in a foreign country to be kept indefinitely.
Even though administration officials admit that sending him there was an error, Trump has been doing nothing to remedy the mistake that Joe Rogan, a famous podcaster and avid Trump supporter, called “horrific.”
In fact, the administration has doubled down.
An attorney representing the administration didn’t have much to say in the lower court and he apologized to the judge repeatedly for not having the information to respond to the judge’s questions.
White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said publicly that the judge should get in touch with the Salvadoran president “because we are unaware of the judge having jurisdiction or authority over the country of El Salvador.”
Leavitt called Garcia a “brutal and vicious” MS-13 gang member.
However, a judge told the administration’s attorneys on Friday, April 4 that they had brought no evidence to court.
“That’s just chatter, in my view,” she said of the accusation. “I haven’t been given any evidence. In a court of law, when someone is accused of membership in such a violent and predatory organization, it comes in the form of an indictment, a complaint, a criminal proceeding that has robust process so we can assess the facts.”
I realize Trump’s superpower is that he will never admit a mistake; however, that superpower, in this case, is also his Achilles heel.
It is causing him to get things extremely wrong.
I mean, there are so many things wrong here that it’s difficult to list them, but I hope we can all agree on at least one thing: The government of the United States of America should not be just taking people and imprisoning them in some hellscape prison in another country without any due process.
Garcia may be the most violent worst person on earth but, here in America, everyone – everyone – is entitled to due process before being deported and imprisoned.
I know people don’t agree with each other on much these days, but, if it happened to your wife, your husband, your child – are you fine with it then?
Or, if it happened to you? Will that be fine with you?
The truly amazing thing to me is that, once administration officials realized they had made a mistake, they did not try to bring Garcia back to the United States. In fact, they suspended the attorney who didn’t argue effectively in favor of the deportation to a foreign jail. But who could argue effectively or passionately in good conscience that it is perfectly fine to just take someone and lock them up in one of the most brutal prisons in the world.
Trump’s attorneys have conceded in court filings that the administration mistakenly deported the husband and father “because of an administrative error,” but then they turned around and said the administration could not bring him back because he is now in Salvadorian custody.
Now, the administration has filed a motion with the US Supreme Court asking the judges to overturn the lower court’s order to bring Garcia back.
Just admit the mistake, remedy it and move on.
I hope we can all agree that this is wrong.
Got just this one wrong?
Is Hubris arrogant stupidity or just plain stupidity?
Garcia should not have been deported and should have been returned. Our government should start proceedings now to have that happen.
I agree with the Administration’s goal regarding deportations. I do think they should look carefully at their process. This applies to many of the changes this Administration is enacting. While these changes will be beneficial to the country, procedures, direct benefits of each, and data found during any inquiries (without the use of bold black Sharpies), should be clearly explained to citizens, so we are aware of what information is uncovered.
A right thing must be done in the right way, to be right. It’s our last chance to get things
right.
There is more to this story than has been reported. Judgment should be withheld until the full story is revealed. However, he was an ILLEGAL immigrant so deporting him should not be debatable. The question is whether he should have been deported to a Salvadorian prison. If not, then request the Salvadorian government to release him from prison but DO NOT bring him back to the US. Afterall, he is now home where he belongs.
He had protected status from immigration while his case was being heard in the courts.
What protected status for a suspected gang member? There is more to this story. Wait for it.
When requesting asylum and you have your case pending in the courts (he and his family deny they were gang members) you have protected status that is supposed to protect you from being deported. But we fully understand the Trump and his supporters no longer have any respect for the laws they personally don’t like….
i for one fully support the idea of ‘due process of law’ where no one can just ‘say you are guilty’ and send you away to prison without the right to defend yourself in court. It is a sad day that Americans have turned their back on this concept.
But you be you.
Lol, ” this concept” was implemented by the Democrats on a daily basis over the last 6 or more years while attacking Republicans? Funny man. “But you be you.”
Name one example JV. Bet you can’t.
More hollow accusations from a conservative. Yawn.
You can get an amen on that one! Let’s allow the “rest of the story “ to play out before we rush to judgement.
These days we demand instant everything, including overnight stock results, social media posts, and even justice. The justice system in America is the greatest on earth. Allow it to be in control and I have every faith that justice will prevail here.
Is he a U S citizen, he has no rights under the constitution
He is human and to be clear, the courts have held that immigrants have the same protections under the constitution except for special circumstances. This individual had protected status from immigration and was working his case through the legal system.
You forgot to mention the “illegal” part, dude.
They always conveniently forget that part! Like these are a bunch of refugees only coming here to eke out a living by the sweat of their brows and the callouses on their hands (cue the violins…). NO, those being deported first are the miscreants, the gang members, thiefs, murders, rapists, drug cartels, traffickers, etc., and the mentally ill, who were sent here by their own countries because they didn’t want them.
He had legal status of ‘asylum seeker’ [don’t know the actual legal term] with his case already moving through the courts. But conservatives don’t care about the law anymore. I get that. Just lock up people they deem undesirable. Hmmm where have we heard that before?
Why would a suspected gang member be labeled an “asylum seeker” except by a Democrat-appointed immigration judge? There is more to this story.
Oh right, the ol’ the courts don’t count unless I agree with argument. Pathetic that right wing lies, misinformation and propaganda have reached the point of degrading the value of the due process of law. But what do you expect form a party that elected felon. Pathetic and disgrace to what used to make this country great.
Trump’s plan to destroy America and Democracy:
– destroy confidence in election system
– destroy confidence in judicial system
– destroy education system (especially advanced education systems)
– destroy alliances with other democratic countries
– isolate America from world trade and markets
– convince people it’s all somebody elses fault
Doesn’t look like he really wants to make America Great again.
Simply Collateral Damage in Donald Trump’s efforts to replace peace on the streets of America! War is cruel and only time will tell whether he was right or wrong?. How many more innocent Americans need to die as a result of the Biden-Harris open border agenda? Have we already forgotten the coeds killed by irresponsible and criminal immigrants at the University of Georgia and the University of South Carolina? So far President Trump is batting 99%. How many American lives and families has he already saved?
How many lives has he destroyed?
The US is now a country with travel advisories going up against us as if we were a third world country. How you protect yourself matters. Trump is destroying America’s place as a world leader and we will all be paying for it for decades.
You’re free to leave and go live in one of these other utopias that you hold in such esteem.
AMERICA FIRST!!!! That’s not such a hard concept to understand.
I love my country (just not the current leadership). America WAS first before Trump. We had the strongest economy in the world. We led the world in innovation and research. We were the strongest military in the world and defender of freedom worldwide.
All those things are being destroyed by conservatives. We are not America First now. We are America Alone given how we have turned our backs on our longtime allies and withdrawn from the global economy.
Good luck with that mindset.
What’s your problem with Third World Countries?
Depends on your definition of Third World Country. I use the modern definition of countries defined by economic underdevelopment and poverty. If that’s where you want to take America, you be you. I prefer we continue to be a world leader versus an isolationist country cut off from global trade and wealth.
I never said – or implied – any of that. You lie.
Never said you did…it was a supposition as you really added no context to your comment.
Thirty years ago I would have agreed with you. Considering illegal immigration has been an issue since the 1980’s and the government has done nothing to shut down the border, something has to be done. Blame those who talked for years about stopping illegal immigration and then didn’t allow the border patrol do their job. A big fence with a big gate and an immigration processing center could have been built back in the nineties and we wouldn’t be talking about it now. Yet, here we are.
One guy the left is crying over and promoting as a martyr in their mockingbird media. They cared nothing for those American citizens wrongly imprisoned without due process for years in our own country for simply being in wrong place at the wrong time during Jan. 6th… Screw them
Jan 6th people had due process. They broke the law. Not complicated. You don’t get to ignore the courts just because you ‘don’t like the law’. Only rich people like Trump get to do that in this country.
But didn’t illegal immigrants break the law?
Sure. It perfectly fine to deport people who cross the border illegally. Keep in mind that crossing the border illegally is a misdemeanor. Does that warrant being tossed in a foreign prison without due process of law? Nope. it doesn’t.
Are you ok with deporting legal immigrants/visa holders without due process of law too? Just think of how a Police State monitors the public and punishes ‘wrong doers’ without due process of law. We are THAT country now that we deport student visa holders for their social media content without any appeals process.
We are better than that. Or at least we used to be.
“They broke the law. Not complicated” – “Chris”, comment, April 8th, 2025 @ 08:25 am.
In this case al hare, it has yet to proven in a court of law. But i fully understand how conservatives no longer value the rule of law when it comes to the ‘type’ of people they don’t like. Personally, I would rather NOT live in a Police State as Trump is establishing.
But you be you.
Funny how liberals “value the rule of law” in some cases, but not in others, ain’t it?
Hypocrite.
When have I not valued the rule of law?
Trump, lost in court.
Jan 6ers Convicted in court
Foxnews lost civil case in court
Just another hollow accusation from conservative with no basis in fact as a feeble attempt to deflect. Yawn.
You cannot be an illegal immigrant. You have to be legally in the USA to be called an immigrant. Why can’t people understand that simple truth. If you enter our country illegally to are an illegal ALIEN.
An immigrant here illegally is … wait for it … An Illegal immigrant.
Not complicated. But yes, they are also referred to as illegal aliens.
It neat we can have two phrases that are interchangeable. Isn’t language fun!?
But I get it, conservative want to control what people are allowed to say and think. So much for Muh Freedom! or Small government.
They were USA citizens!
I believe you are exactly right. Emerson opined that “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds” but the corollary, which would be that “A total lack of consistency is the mark of defective minds” is also true. Our President who routinely portrays himself as the best ever and asserts executive power beyond established limits appears in this case to be suggesting that the executive is powerless to remedy its admitted mistakes. To read established law as inapplicable when doing so enhances executive power while simultaneously arguing legal technicalities prevent the executive from even attempting to remedy its blunders is not only a “foolish” inconsistency, but so self-contradictory that it raises valid concerns about the mind that could entertain it.
Let’s all agree that if the Democrats had not intentionally let MILLIONS of people into this country
ILLEGALLY, this would not have happened. Will any of you Marxists please come up with solutions to problems instead of causing them?
MAGA
Immigrants (yes even illegal ones) actually add to our economy. You know, you earn money, pay taxes, and spend money. Plus they drive productivity by often being skilled workers willing to work for lower wages so they help keep domestic production costs down.
The myth that immigrants cause crime is a scare tactic the conservatives use to strip people of their individual rights and horde power for themselves. Good luck with that..
Sure, immigrants have been involved in crimes. So have US citizens. Studies are very clear that immigrants commit less crimes than citizens (for obvious reasons). If the idea is to block all immigrants to keep immigrant crime away, then it will have a very negative impact on the economy.
Lastly, the Trump approach of driving away immigrants with aggressive police actions while effective, has the negative impact of driving away legal immigrants as well. And we rely on them for for farming, construction, and even those that come to the US for college research studies in advance sciences that have help make us the leading country in innovation for decades.
I am still a supporter of immigration reform such as the bill proposed during the Biden administration. I think the Trump approach is too heavy handed and will only hurt us economically.
Calling people who have a different view than you are Marxists is just stupid. You clearly have no idea what the term means given it has nothing to do with the modern liberal point of view. Just more childish fear mongering by repeating scary words you just don’t understand.
But you be you.
The cruelty of Trump’s actions and policies is stunning.
If Congress did their jobs and revised immigration law, we would not be having this conversation! Truth is that our elected officials are playing both sides of the fence on immigration because they don’t want to declare their beliefs and lose their jobs.
If you came here illegally you are a criminal. The only process you are afforded is deportation. Plain and simple. Why aren’t the ridiculous left wing loons crying out for all of the murder and rape victims at the hands of those illegals. Trump got it right. The majority of the people in this country voted for Trump to do exactly what he is doing. The same people whining now didn’t say a peep when illegals we’re deported from 2008 to 2016. Why is that?
Amen, brother! This is EXACTLY what I voted for.
Legal immigration, where people go through the process to become American Citizens? LOVE IT. Many of them love this country much more than a lot of the people here commenting on this article.
Illegal immigration, where you cross our border illegally, and are parasites, draining our economy of taxpayer resources, breaking our laws, refuse to learn our language, and thumb your noses at us by flying the flag of the country you just left to come here? GTFOH!
AMERICA FIRST!!!
We cry out for justice when anyone commits violent crimes. Illegals in general don’t commit near as much crime per capita as citizens so on average they reduce the crime rates of cities the move into. I preferred we closed the asylum loophole that was voted down at Trumps request. It would have had similar results without the negative impact to legal immigration that Trump’s police state approach has caused. And those changes would be written into law versus just administrative executive orders.
But you be you.
Trump won’t concede to the principle of due process here—not because he’s unaware of its importance, but because he genuinely doesn’t care about it in cases like this, and politically, he’s right not to. For Trump, openly dismissing due process underscores his strength and decisiveness in the eyes of his supporters, reinforcing his image as someone who acts swiftly and unapologetically to protect Americans, rather than getting bogged down in legal niceties. After all, insisting on due process would imply vulnerability or weakness—an admission that rules and constraints apply to him, something Trump has skillfully convinced his base isn’t necessary for a strong leader.
President Trump’s refusal to acknowledge mistakes or misinformation is a carefully honed strategy that has repeatedly proven effective for Trump. As journalist Masha Gessen insightfully explains, Trump practices what she calls the “power lie” or the “bully lie,” a tactic he deploys with remarkable discipline and consistency.
Unlike ordinary lies, which attempt to mislead by disguising reality, Trump’s lies boldly assert dominance over reality itself. Consider the situation you described regarding Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia: Trump’s administration admits a serious error, yet simultaneously doubles down on claims that Garcia is a dangerous criminal, even though they presented no evidence in court. This is classic Trumpian behavior—the assertion that reality is whatever Trump says it is, regardless of the facts.
Why does Trump refuse to admit such clear errors? Because historically, this strategy has worked remarkably well for him. Throughout his business career and political life, Trump’s insistence on his own alternate facts has often allowed him to shape narratives, intimidate critics, and maintain support. Admitting error, from his perspective, would weaken his perceived strength and diminish his control over the narrative. In his worldview, acknowledging a mistake would equate to losing power, something Trump has long conditioned himself never to risk.
As Gessen describes, the Trump bully lie demands that we choose between the tangible evidence we see plainly before us and the aggressive assertion of the lie itself. It’s a raw test of power that has defined Trump’s political strategy.
Acknowledge Trump’s brilliance at wielding this tactic. He remains masterfully consistent in employing strategies that few others dare attempt, precisely because they so boldly reject traditional political norms. Admire Trump’s unwavering commitment to his approach, recognizing that as long as it continues to work for him, he has little incentive to abandon it.
His ignoring due process just shows his desire to be a totalitarian leader over a Police State where he is King. And the fools that support this way are thinking are unAmerican and will one day regret seeding such power to a single individual.
But you be you
I voted for Trump because he vowed to get rid of all the illegals who’ve invaded our country resulting in states’ financial ruin with elevated levels of crime.
I’m glad some illegals with criminal records are being removed! But being illegal means you’re also a criminal. Illegals do not have rights under our constitution. The administration is being generous and allowing them to self-deport if they want another chance at living in our country. Trump will start making our country great again by deporting ALL illegals. He needs to keep his promises.
Crossing the border without permission is a misdemeanor in the US. Are you claiming everyone with a misdemeanor conviction is a criminal? But Trump who has numerous felony convictions isn’t a criminal?
Let me guess…since you don’t like ‘that court’s decision – based on law -” you claim that doesn’t count?
Not sure you understand what you wrote. If anyone is convicted of a misdemeanor no matter how small yes you are a criminal and you will have a criminal record on file in the court system. The only exception is in the case of a minor.
I’m sure there is more to this story than we can see in this report. What’s missing is whether he is a US citizen or not.
“here in America, everyone – everyone – is entitled to due process before being deported and imprisoned.”
I don’t know if this is true…if he is on US soil illegally, it seems reasonable to me that if the US government takes the time and cost to send him back to his own country, they are doing him a favor. What his own country decides to do with him is not determined by the USA.
This is opinion; I don’t know the law regarding this.
He is an asylum seeker and had his case pending in court and therefore had protected immigrant status.
“Had” being the key-word here. Cry some more for him, Chris.
So you are ok with stripping Indvidual rights (granted by the courts) from people just because a politician says so? You deal realize that is the definition of a Police State don’t you? Next thing you know, we will have large military parades to honor our dear leader like in NK. Oh wait….
ALL the illegal immigrants know to claim that they’re “asylum seekers” – and fleeing for their lives!
It’s bullshit of course, but they know this guarantees they won’t be immediately thrown back across the border, and they’ll get liberal attorneys fighting for them to stay in America.
It’s just abusing the system – and the decency and compassion of us Americans.
Could have closed that loophole with the immigration reform bill proposed by bipartisan group during the Biden administration but Trump preferred the police state approach. Which has may negative consequences both short-term and long-term.
But you be you.
Don’t deflect and digress.
You didn’t even attempt to refute my assertion that they all claim asylum status – because it’s true, isn’t it?
Don’t you love how people pick and choose what they use to support their view and try to make others look like heartless abusers?
Why not tell the other stuff from that liberal piece of leftist legislation, like the number of ILLEGAL ALIENS that would be allowed into the country on a daily basis, undoubtedly with little to no vetting before turning them loose on unsuspecting US citizens.
And as for your repeated counter argument on how the number of US CITIZENS killed by illegals is much lower then rate then legal residents, all I can say I want you to look the families in eye, each and every one of them, and give your heartless argument. I’m sure they would feel so much better knowing their loved one is just a worthless unimportant number in the overall scheme of things. ONE life is one too many, but hey, you be that heartless you.
Who is deflect now al hare. LMAO
if you don’t like the law, change the law. Conservatives claim to whine about immigration but never want to actually fix the root problem. Now we have reduced immigrant labor. But no worry, Trump solved that problem by eliminating demand for US ag products. Good luck if you are a farmer. You are going to need it.
And no, not all illegals claim asylum. Many are deported back over the border to just try again later.
Awww, look at Alan trying to contribute by repeating long ago debunked misinterpretation of the immigration bill that conservatives voted down and would have had a lasting impact on the root problem around immigration.
Keep trying Alan. One day you will have something of value to add. Its so cute you try.
You even tried the tired argument of ‘one life’ matters. I can easily look at families in the eye and support justice against the crime committed by either illegals or US citizens. Violent crime is awful regardless of status of the person committing the crime.
If conservative believed one life was too many, they would support real reform over guns but that argument is just as stupid as claiming the ‘open border’ lie while refusing to pass the most comprehensive immigration reform just because they needed the issue to get their totalitarian candidate elected suing fear.
Keep trying Alan. It’s cute you try. One day you will have your own ideas versus just repeating tired old propaganda from your friends on Foxnews.
But you be you.
“Chris”, you’re an idiot. You can’t even write cogent English.
How old are you? Seven?
Meh. Why proofread for this crowd? Are you really worth the effort?
Truely I am often commenting from my phone where I make far more typos. Oh well, I figure you lot can claim Trump and his poor use of grammar, limited vocabulary and his rambling gibberish is a genius, so I was just playing along. LMAO
He was a criminal chris
Who really knows? Garcia.
Did he enter the country legally? No.
That right there is enough for deportation, regardless of who you marry or how many children you father. Bluntly, you broke the so you are a criminal.
Did he help plan, organize, and, most of all lead and advocate for violence against Jews legally in this country? Yes.
You can actually see footage of it.
Does he deserve to be deported to the prison in El Salvador? Not enough solid evidence for me to decide one way or the other.
Does he deserve to be deported period? Yes.
He broke our laws and add to it his activities here he definitely should be deported.
Should all illegal aliens be deported? Yes. You broke our laws to get here and deserve it. And don’t give me this ‘oh, he/she claimed asylum.’ So why didn’t they approach the first LEO the saw and demand asylum instead of waiting weeks, months, years and were caught?
Can’t We Just Admit It?
Mistakes were made—so clear, so plain,
Yet stubborn pride prolongs the pain.
A man is taken, rights denied,
Accused, deported—justice lied.
No evidence, no proof at all,
Yet silence answers justice’s call.
Courts question, press demands the proof,
Yet truth stays distant and aloof.
Mistake confessed, yet remedy spurned,
No due process—haven’t we learned?
What if the victim were your own?
Would justice then remain unknown?
Let’s end this madness, right the wrong—
Bring back the man, restore the strong.
Admit the error, make amends,
Or watch our principles descend.
————–
A poet arises, new on these pages,
His opinion is free, he earns no wages.
And that’s what it’s worth, a zero its sum,
Just Leftist drivel from a Democrat bum.
A bigoted old fool named Autin Morris
Spins his comments just to bore us.
More hollow words attacking others
Yet whines when I share my druthers
More white nationalist words repeated
by someone long defeated
He thinks Trump is winning
but truth is grinning
that America is now isolated
and doomed we are fated
Don’t quit your day job.
No we cannot. This guy has been made out to be a saint, but reality is he has a record, one which includes murder. What the Democrats want the Americans to believe is that only a handful of Illegals are guilty of crimes and even they should get the same protection as CITIZENS of this country have. Look that up, people. They have a right to a hearing, nothing more. Next you will proclaim that Trump is wrecking the economy with the tariffs but that Biden was a saint who had the best economy. What a laugh the Democrats are these days. Pres. Trump is restoring justice and safety in America, while putting our trade back in balance and bringing home manufacturing. The last president to do even half of what Trump is doing caused the economy to soar 30%, while cutting government spending/waste and keeping the borders secure. That was Ronald Reagan. Stop reporting using the propaganda which has been proven false and provide your readers with factual data.
Murder? He was not convicted of murder. Where are you getting your propaganda BS?
And no, he isn’t being made out to be a saint. The due process of law IS being made out to be critical for what makes America great. Certainly, better than totalitarian regimes that lock up their opposition or ‘less desirables’ without due process of law. Liberals don’t really care that much about Garcia. Liberals REALLY care about due process of law.
If you prefer a totalitarian police state approach, you are a disgrace to what being American stands for regardless of which party is in power. Due process of law is a human right and yes, that include immigrants. Legal and illegal.
When it comes to the economy, Biden inherited a disaster of an economy as a result of Covid and Trumps poor handling of Covid. He fought off inflation (after a slow start to be fair) without pushing our economy into a recession. Now contrast that with Trump who inherited an economy that had low unemployment, low inflation, and record stock market growth (a better recovery than any other country in the world!!!). Sure, we have a housing crisis, and people are still struggling to deal with the aftermath of the spike in inflation…so what does Trump do? He fires thousands from federal employment, reduces benefits for those struggling financially, tanks the stock market with universal tariffs that threaten to drive up prices and alienates the US from its long-time trading partners. Not to mention defunding the research that has long made the US a leader in innovation and development.
Now tell me how any of Trump actions help people struggling financially? It doesn’t dummy. Trump doesn’t care about you. Never has. Never will.
But you be you.
He WAS a criminal Chris
8 US code chapter 12 1228 expedited removal of suspected aliens committing aggravated felonies
a) Removal of criminal aliens
(1) In general
The Attorney General shall provide for the availability of special removal proceedings at certain Federal, State, and local correctional facilities for aliens convicted of any criminal offense covered in section 1227(a)(2)(A)(iii), (B), (C), or (D) of this title, or any offense covered by section 1227(a)(2)(A)(ii) of this title for which both predicate offenses are, without regard to the date of their commission, otherwise covered by section 1227(a)(2)(A)(i) of this title. Such proceedings shall be conducted in conformity with section 1229a of this title (except as otherwise provided in this section), and in a manner which eliminates the need for additional detention at any processing center of the Service and in a manner which assures expeditious removal following the end of the alien’s incarceration for the underlying sentence. Nothing in this section shall be construed to create any substantive or procedural right or benefit that is legally enforceable by any party against the United States or its agencies or officers or any other person.
Says in the code we do not have to provide court time for those who are criminal felons illegally here. That’s who these gang members are. No one should be sad they are deported. We are safer every day.
Look, a conservative pretending to care about the law.
Note the word ‘convicted’ in that legal statement. Garcia was not convicted of such a crime as covered under section 1227(a)(2)(A)(iii), (B), (C), or (D) or section 1227(a)(2)(A)(ii). He was accused but not convicted. Only a court of law can convict.
let’s let the lawyers and judges handle the convicting of people to prison. NOT politicians like they do in Police States.
If he was convicted of a crime, then what was done seems legit. If he wasn’t convicted, this doesn’t apply.
What makes sense is to change the asylum-seeking rules, so this doesn’t happen again.
The last immigration bill republicans voted down did just that. Maybe Trump’s awful trade policies will build a big enough blue wave we can have real reform of laws versus a bunch of mean spirited executive orders by a wanna be dictator.
In 2019, an immigration judge denied Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia his asylum claim due to a missed filing deadline but granted him “withholding of removal.”
“Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia was arrested in Maryland in 2019 on charges related to a domestic violence incident. Specifically, he was accused of assaulting his partner, though the exact details of the incident—such as the severity or circumstances—aren’t widely specified in public records. This arrest triggered his encounter with immigration authorities, leading to the subsequent review of his legal status. The domestic violence charge brought him to the attention of ICE, which then attempted to deport him. However, he was initially protected by the “Withholding Of Removal” ruling by an immigration judge due to the perceived threats he faced in El Salvador. “Withholding Of Removal” does not grant an immigrant constitutional rights in the same way citizenship or lawful permanent residency does. It’s a limited form of relief under U.S. immigration law, rooted in the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) and international obligations like the 1951 Refugee Convention, not the U.S. Constitution. It prevents deportation to a specific country where the individual faces a clear probability of persecution or torture, but it doesn’t confer legal status, residency, or a path to citizenship.
“In Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia’s case, his withholding of removal meant he couldn’t be sent back to El Salvador due to gang threats. Still, it didn’t give him affirmative constitutional rights like freedom of movement or protection from deportation to a third country. His 2025 deportation to El Salvador, despite this status, violated the court order—not a constitutional right—highlighting the precarious nature of this protection. Essentially, withholding of removal is a shield against specific harm, not a grant of broader constitutional privileges. That said, withholding of removal doesn’t prevent deportation to a different country if the U.S. can find one willing to accept him where he wouldn’t face persecution. His initial illegal entry in 2011 and lack of broader legal status (like residency or citizenship) mean he’s technically removable from the U.S. to a third country.”
So the simple solution is to find a 3rd country willing to accept him….El Salvador perhaps….and as an illegal, already denied asylum because he missed the filing date and under the “Withholding Of Removal” order is subject to deportation to a 3rd country willing to accept him……
Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia is from El Salvador, which means he was not “removed to a third country.” Nonetheless, he was technically not deported to El Salvador but to a prison that just happens to be in El Salvador. A significant difference in my mind’s eye.
He was appealing his denial as is allowed under current law….but we know conservatives don’t care about laws, especially when they protect a ‘type’ of person they don’t like. And stop with the ‘but he was an illegal’. Crossing the border illegally is a misdemeanor. We are tossing people into violence foreign prisons for misdemeanors? Are we going to do the same to US citizens now? Oh wait, Trump already said he wants to do that…guess our transition to a Police State is almost complete.
I don’t care about Garica. I care about the importance of the rule of law. And allowing a politician to make determination of someone outside of the court of law is wrong and is only found in Police States. Is that who we are now?
A thoughtful and rational post. You must be lost or a first time visitor to these pages??? Unfortunetaly, most opinions here are from extremist on both sides who favor reactionary knee jerk responses that never let facts get in the way of a red hot emotional opinion.
lets follow him down there & ‘unhorrorify’ his jail . . . practice here first ?
Looks like the US Supreme Court agrees that Trump got this one wrong. Thankfully we still have the rule of law in the US even though Trump and his administration are doing all they can to avoid the rule of law.
All these diverse views. No common agreement. Too bad. I can see one good thing coming out of this situation. Hopefully the unsavory characters can see what can happen to them if they don’t self deport.
Sadly legal immigrants are not coming here as well. Especially those seeking advanced degrees. Oh well, guess conservatives win by dumbing down America. It’s the only way they survive.
America has already been dumbed down. Look at American students’ results. The primary reason and in most cases the only reason illegal immigrants want to come to the US is for the benefits and the Democrats’ soft on crime attitude. Why are the vast majority of illegal immigrants young males? Why don’t they stay and improve their own country? Because the heavy lifting making a country better has already been done by previous generations of Americans. The illegal immigrants want to reap the benefits of previous generations’ hard work. I believe in sharing but not with those who break our laws and are “takers.”
No, Boomer.
Hey peanut I’m a boomer. Hope you live to enjoy that title someday
The only mistake was sending this guy to an El Salvador PRISON. Just deporting him to El Salvador and letting their officials send him to prison would have been good enough. Garcia didn’t apply for asylum, he crossed the border as a gotaway. Then he got caught, and was given a deportation order in 2019 — that was due process. He continued to defy the law by staying here illegally. Now he is in his home country of El Salvador, where he can either stay alive in prison or try not to be killed by a rival gang in his homeland. Attaboy, ICE.
he was my dad